Was Carl Jung’s Ancestor an Illuminatus?

Terry Melanson

Webmaster/editor of Conspiracy Archive; author of Perfectibilists: the 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati.

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  1. Futureshock says:

    Hi Terry,

    You mention that Jung’s grandfather was a Mason, but there might be more to it. I once saved a bio of Jung from the C.J. Jung Society UK, which said:

    “Professor Jung was the eldest son of a country protestant parson and the grandson of Dr.
    Carl Gustav Jung, an innovatory German doctor who had a pioneering interest in mental
    diseases. His grandfather inaugurated a rare and humane, psychiatric clinic in Basel,
    Switzerland, in the mid-nineteenth century. Jung’s grandfather was a Grand Master of the
    Swiss Lodge of Masons. Rumour had it that Jung’s grandfather was an illegitimate son of
    Goethe the eighteenth century German poet.”

    Unfortunately the website of the Society doesn’t exist anymore [another good reason to save pdf’s of interesting articles you run in to] so it will bedifficult to ask them for sources. I can’t vouch for these claims, but it’s another circumstantial hint, let’s call it that way.

    I’ve uploaded the PDF biography, maybe you can find more interesting leads in it:


    • He was obsessed with Goethe. I think he made up the rumour himself. One would think, however, that given his obsession he would have known everything about Goethe and that the latter was an Illuminati member and could have easily sussed out the fact that his grandfather’s uncle was a member as well.

      I think the reason he didn’t highlight the fact is because he knew the Illuminati were rationalists opposed to mysticism and the Rosicrucians in particular. In other words, he was embarrassed. It didn’t fit with his cultivated image as a sage in a long line of sages.

      • someone235 says:

        Why do you say the Illuminati opposed to mysticism? It seems that Weishaupt was strongly influenced by manicheism. Poke Runyon also mention in this podcast: http://goo.gl/zxDcnz that he was inspired by the Rosicrucian mysticism (It doesn’t contradict the fact that he had conflict with the rosicrucians).

        • He was against the superstitious folly of both the religious orthodoxy as well as the occult orthodoxy represented at the time by the Strict Observance and Rosicrucianism. The Cagliostros and the Saint Germains of the era were the butt of the joke. Practical occultism to him was a dead end, a waste of time and a fraud – as was mystical contemplation. The main thrust of the Illuminati was to rid the lodges of these tendencies and steer it toward rationalism and the pursuit of the perfection of man through reason alone. He respected the old Greek schools of wisdom, the Ghebers, and Isis worship but had a skewed romantic view of them current in certain schools of philosophy during the Enlightenment – e.g. that the final mysteries in the old mystery schools had really in fact held that religion was fabrication, that the Gods of old were merely men who had become deified; materialists and atheists in the making.

          • Lots of Ancient Greek philosophers did indeed claim the gods were originally deified mortals, and the Early Church Fathers incorporated those claims into their arguments for Christianity.

  2. Johann Heinrich Jung is another notable Jung form this era.

    I wonder if he’s also related. He’s the main source for the claim that Conrad Dipple lost his faith completely toward the end of his life.

  3. Benjamin Jackson says:

    Vital error in this article. Affiliation with freemasons or other occult groups does not mean illuminati. There has always been the light occult and the dark. For example you use the phrase. “Maximilien United to the Golden Sun.” Well the illuminati worship the black sun. So its possible Von Jung was on the light side.

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