PERFECTIBILISTS: The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati, by Terry Melanson
The Ascendancy of the Scientific Dictatorship, by Paul & Phillip Collins
Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, by Abbe Barruel
Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith, by James H. Billington
America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones, by Antony C. Sutton
April 25th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
This video shares some advice that needs to also be taken by researchers into the Illuminati and conspiracy and deep politics generally: For God’s sake, avoid circular citations! Find primary source documents. If you can’t, use words and phrases such as, “allegedly” or “so and so contends” or “it is so and so’s assertion that…”
This crap has led to a slew of bad material that genuine and responsible researchers now have to wade through. This brand of intellectually lazy and shoddy research recently led to the emergence among fringe Christians of the theory that holds that the Founding Fathers were frothing at the mouth Luciferians. Not one bit of it can be verified, confirmed, or proven. A lot of what these fringe Christians excoriate America for can be found to originate with Puritan individualism and modernist relativism.
This kind of bad research form has also helped the “Jesuits and the Illuminati are one and the same” theory thrive. Same with the 9/11 truth lunatics.
Once this crap is out of the bag, it can’t be put back in. True believers can’t be convinced otherwise and will get nasty if you try. The Zeitgeist misfits will probably be with us for years to come.
April 25th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
True. Many people just find something that they think agrees with their own views and pass it on as is. I get the feeling that when it comes to history, average people view it as a form of entertainment. And, unfortunately, too much of conspiracy theory literature amounts to an exercise in exaggeration.
April 25th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
I thought it sounded like alot of unresearched crap.
But atleast it sounded better than that tired ass Jesus story.
April 27th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
This horrible, arrogant, person really does set out to put all of those who would dare question the established orthodoxy right back into their respective places, doesn’t he?
…Was I the only one who was slightly disturbed by the growing intensity of his arrogant refutations as the interview rolled on?
…What’s the betting he’s got a serious dose of hemorrhoids up that tight Aussie arse of his….a real bastion of the white establishment, eh? (peace!)
April 28th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
I agree with Paul, Zeitgeist along with the perpetual Christian propaganda are doing a great job on keeping the facts away from the public eye. The question is, are they in it only for the money? or are they controlled opposition? I cannot help but to continually question my paranoia.
I personally can’t blame the Zeitgeist followers, being naive is not a sin. We all know there is something wrong with the picture and I find that the most popular “answers” available are usually the wrong ones. Truth always seems to be hiding under a rock, and unfortunately not many are willing to take the time and effort required to dig it up.
Terry is absolutely right, conspiracy will keep being mostly entertainment until some major disaster forces people to wake up.
May 29th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
The movie (Zeitgeist) got alot of things wrong. For starters, Jesus wasn’t born on December 25, it’s not anywhere in the Bible. It’s most likely that He was born during the spring (think about it, what would sheep be doing out in December?). It also assumes that the Bible stole, or bored, the flood idea from the Sumarians. This is wrong, the fact is that there are at least 200 flood legends from cultures around the world (what does that tell you?). Though many say that the water for the flood came as rain, this is scientifically impossible. If that much water (what is neccassary to submerge the earth under water) fell as rain, it would burn the earth. But see, the Bible says in Genesis 7:11 that the ‘fountains of the great deep were broken up’. Most of the flood water came from water in the earth’s crust. And indeed there is still water in the earth’s crust coming up in hydrothermal vents (Job 38:16 talks about ’springs in the sea’. Look up the Hyrdroplate Theory by Walt Brown for more and go to drdino.com for other topics that relate.
May 4th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
Terry Melanson - That applies to Christianity itself and it’s texts.
Zeitgeist shows unparalleled evidence toward Christianity being born of pagan worship. The refutation video was a joke. Apologist crap.
CJ Franks - Zeitgeist never claimed he was born on the 25th, only that many Christians believe that he is and that this was indeed taken from the Pagan calendar .