10 Responses to “Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’?”

1. Mescalero Says:
   December 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pm

   I know you think that global warming is fake, but you’ve been taken in by the biggest hoax of all. Take a look at who’s behind everyone propagating this little piece of theatre:

   http://www.desmogblog.com/oily-echo-machine-behind-climategate

2. Terry Melanson Says:
   December 6th, 2009 at 2:39 am

   Ya, take a look:

   James Hoggan is the president of the public relations firm James Hoggan & Associates. Over the past two decades, Jim has earned a reputation as one of Canada’s leading public relations professionals. His clients have included A&W Foods, the North West Cruise Ship Association, Vancouver Port Authority, Canadian Tire, Business Objects and Canadian Pacific Rail.

   Mr. Hoggan is Chair of the David Suzuki Foundation, an executive member of the Urban Development Institute and Future Generations and a Trustee of the Dalai Lama Centre for Peace and Education. He helped establish the Suzuki Foundation Business Council on Sustainability to encourage collaboration between the environmental and business communities. Jim’s interest in climate change and his commitment to practicing ethical public relations converged recently in the creation of the popular website DeSmogBlog. The blog exists to identify unethical PR tactics and to expose the PR people who are trying to confuse the public about climate change.

   James Hoggan has been trained by Al Gore as part of The Climate Project, an initiative designed to educate the public about climate change.

   Puppets and puppet masters on both sides - and Hippocrates.

3. Ross Says:
   December 7th, 2009 at 2:33 am

   I’m not a scientists, but here’s all the proof I need that the whole global warming thing is a scam; in the early 70’s they said we need to curtail industrial development and the burning of fossil fuels and lower population levels to save ourselves from man made global cooling, shortly after the very same people (John Holdren and so on) moved to the opposite end of the spectrum and said that the exact same things (population, industry, fuel, etc) were causing global warming. Again, the proposed solutions was a draconian, Malthusian, international government. This alone should show any one, who’s not an utter fool, that the agenda (Totalitarianism, Malthusianism, Globalism, etc) precedes the science. It’s completely biased! They start with a desired political goal and then make up whatever they want to push it.

   And as for their claims that global warming critics are tools of Big Oil, how about they explain why so much of their own funding comes from NGO’s like the Rockefeller Foundation? Check out their webpage, it’s almost only about Global Warming activism.

   http://www.rockfound.org/

   The Rockefellers are the living embodiment of Big Oil! And their Rockefeller Foundation was used in the first half of the 20th century to fund Malthusian Eugenics. These people must think we’re all serious idiots to swallow their bullshit anymore!

4. Ross Says:
   December 7th, 2009 at 2:48 am

   Terry, do you think it’s likely that the oil companies that fund the attack the global warming scam, are owned by Rockefeller rivals or do you think this is some kind of “dialectic activism”, or controlled opposition, meant to give credence to the argument that climate change critics are puppets of big oil? I seem to recall reading that many of the anti-globalist, right-wing elite are of a more recent acquired oil money than globalists like the Rockefellers. Do you think these elite factions are really at war or is it all show; smoke and mirrors for the benefit of the public? Could it be that the Rockefeller Globalist interest is trying to strangle their right-wing rivals by destroying their livelihood, while the Rockefellers themselves move from oil to some new source of income?

5. Terry Melanson Says:
   December 7th, 2009 at 11:43 am

   Controlled opposition; hedge your bets; defining the boundaries; co-opting through strategic philanthropy. People need money to do things and if the elite didn’t fund all sides of every issue (and political parties) then they loose the power to control.

   There seems to have been a genuine struggle at the top, however, to force everyone in line with an eco-economy strategy. I linked to a review of “Paul Driessen’s Eco-Imperialism: Green Power, Black Death” in my latest post on global salvationism, which goes into some of the details. In particular, see the last few sections, “Kyoto, Enron, Shell, and BP” and “Campaign Exxon Mobil and the Battle in Boardrooms.”

6. Ross Says:
   December 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pm

   Interesting how Exxon is the odd one out and seems to be fighting a semi-invisible activist funding war with the other big oil companies. The top link provided my Mescalero, points fingers at Exxon for calling public attention to “climategate.” It seems that the Rockefeller family, have unsuccessfully attempted to use their influence within Exxon (itself a direct descendant of John D’s Standard Oil) to curb the power of current CEO and President of Exxon, Rex Tillerson so they can institute a more green agenda. Check out this quote from the wikipedia entry on Tillerson.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_W._Tillerson
   In 2001, he became President of Exxon Mobil Corporation; and in 2006, he became CEO following the retirement of Lee Raymond….
   Tillerson recently re-established his authority during a shareholder meeting on May 28, 2008. The Rockefeller family sponsored a non-binding resolution to separate the CEO and chairman positions that Tillerson holds in order to maintain a system of checks and balances. The Rockefeller family also wanted Exxon Mobil to invest more in alternative energy. The resolution did not obtain the necessary majority and Tillerson held on to both job titles.
   Here’s another article, since the wiki entry isn’t sited.
   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/2790272/ExxonMobils-Rex-Tillerson-under-Rockefeller-pressure-to-split-roles.html
   And one more for good measure.
   http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=547068
   Regarding Driessen’s support of GMO food, what do you think? Is the spread and consumption of “frankenfood” part of the Malthusian Elite Agenda or is this something they oppose. Certainly terminator seeds, that produce only one yield, putting farmers in eternal dependance on corporate suppliers seem to fit the “Malthusicrat agenda.” Obviously, more sensationalist researchers like Alex Jones are willing to reject all GMO right off the bat but I can also see how an attack on GMO could be another DDT situation, where activists think they are fighting on behalf of elite victims, but really there just helping the elite lower population levels by eliminating a life saving product.

7. Ross Says:
   December 7th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

   Hmm, apparently it goes deeper with Tillerson. Though, Exxon has apparently helped fund a counter-punch to anthropogenic global warming, that doesn’t seem to necessary make him a friend of the people when it comes to preventing more oppressive enviro-legislation. Check out this inforwars article, which, siting this article;
   http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/10/02/exxons-tillerson-forget-cap-and-trade-carbon-tax-is-the-answer/
   reveals that Tillerson, in an attempt to avoid the financial pressure that cap and trade would put on his company, instead recommended that American’s should be made to pay a carbon tax. Seems to me that he’s a greedy douchebag who, satisfied with the status quo, doesn’t want to play ball with the Globalists. As such, he is trying to avoid their various measures to build an N.W.O, not because he cares all that much about you and me but because it would hurt his annual earnings. Despite his possibly selfish intentions, he has, nonetheless, become a somewhat of a stumbling block for N.W.O machinations. However, be it through cap and trade or as Tillerson recommends, a carbon tax, the effect will likely help the Globalists agenda of demolishing the middle class and starving the world’s poorest people.

8. Terry Melanson Says:
   December 8th, 2009 at 7:44 am

   > GMO food, what do you think?

   Don’t have a definite opinion one way or another but altruism is certainly not at the heart of it - more like greed. Regarding the benefits by reducing pesticide use, I saw a doc a little while ago (on CBC I think) which stressed the opposite - that pests develop resistance to biological methods faster that those of the traditional chemical variety. The same sort of thing that happens with DDT and its various replacement alternatives.

   Re: Tillerson

   Perhaps he will be suicided soon. He doesn’t seem to be a member of any of the elite round table groups, so he might not be one of the boys.

9. Gus Says:
   December 8th, 2009 at 2:49 pm

   GMO’s have actually increased the use of pesticides greatly. The vast majority of GMO crops currently being grown, are designed to allow the spraying of more pesticides, not less. Also, crop yields have been consistently lower with GMO crops than with traditional varieties.

10. Terry Melanson Says:
    December 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    Thanks.

    New Report: GMOs Causing Massive Pesticide Pollution

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