39 Responses to “Buzz Aldrin Lies About His Masonic Activities on the Moon”

1. Paul Says:
   August 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pm

   wow great post… I had a feeling he wasn’t being honest about the masonic influence but didn’t know enough about it… plus the moon landing definately not my area

2. Sherry Says:
   August 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pm

   Had a feeling he was lying. Thanks for the proof!

3. nikolaos Says:
   August 20th, 2009 at 8:45 am

   Amazing proof!!

4. Max Says:
   August 21st, 2009 at 6:30 pm

   So he carried a plaque to the moon and back. This proves what, exactly? I suppose any aliens setting up lodge on the moon are under the jurisdiction of the GL of Texas. I’m A Mason,believe me, the only conspiracy exists in the minds of conspiracy theorists. Each Grand Lodge is independent, there is no international Grand Body that speaks for or directs the actions of anyone.

5. Terry Melanson Says:
   August 21st, 2009 at 9:47 pm

   The mere fact that he did so is the point, and you Freemasons have been bragging about it ever since. When he denies it, 40 years later, he disses you and your fraternity. How do you feel about that?

   I suppose the major point in my three posts so far on the issue, is that this has largely been hidden from the so-called “profane.” Unless people had access to official Scottish Rite publications, or have perused certain Lodge websites which have revealed these little known facts, on the surface it would appear sensational to the average person. Aldrin concealed his allegiance to the most ubiquitous secret society in the United States and dutifully reported back to its headquarters in Washington DC. Further this secret society’s official insignia was carried to the moon - unbeknownst to the public - with the encouragement and blessing of NASA Manager and Commander of Apollo, Kenneth S. Kleinknecht, 33°, the brother of C. Fred Kleinknecht, 33°, Sovereign Grand Commander, The Supreme Council, 33° of the Scottish Rite.

   These are facts worthy to be reported in of themselves, despite protestations to the contrary.

6. Max Says:
   August 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 am

   Again, so what? The fact that he carried a plaque to and fro had no significance, other than to be able to say “look, this plaque has been to the moon.” It’s a souvenir, no more, no less and really of no interest to anyone outside of the fraternity. I’m sure it was in some paper or other at the time.

   As to “secret society,” I find it amazing that we are “secret” when our lodges can be found right out in public, for all to see. The only secrets are the signs, grips and words - the rituals have been out for a couple of hundred years, in various forms.

   Of course, none of this will convince you and the other members of the tin-foil-hat brigade of anything.

   I can hear it now - “You don’t know the real secrets, they don’t tell you ’till you reach the 33rd degree!” *guffaw*

7. Terry Melanson Says:
   August 22nd, 2009 at 3:33 pm

   > I’m sure it was in some paper or other at the time.

   Prove it. Start with the Associated press and expand to Reuters and then the NY Times et al. You speak from ignorance, yet have the gull to say “I’m sure.”

   > The only secrets are the signs, grips and words

   The members are as well (not to mention what goes on at the meetings). It is as “secret” as they come. The Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group are transparent enough to provide the public with a complete list of its members every year. And it’s the least they can do in an ostensibly free society. Different rules for those “on the square,” though.

8. Max Says:
   August 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm

   You’re a complete maroon (to borrow a Bugs Bunny-ism). No one makes a “secret” of their affiliation, except in those countries where idiots like you persecute them. Want to know what goes on in the meetings? Join. Anyone can join who is a man of good moral repute and believes in the existence of a supreme being.

   You probably think we worship Baphomet and sacrifice goats. *rolls eyes*

9. Terry Melanson Says:
   August 22nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm

   That’s enlightenment for ya. Masons always descend into personal attacks. Making men better, eh? Hypocrites. You talk about moral repute? Try some manners first.

   > No one makes a “secret” of their affiliation

   Individuals can admit it, sure; but lists of every member are not provided for the inspection. Thus, cronyism at the very heart of society is quite an effortless affair. As one Mason has admitted:

   “In my lodge alone we have Mayors from three surrounding townships as well as several police chiefs and officers and other ‘notable’ members of the community…”

   …and he still thought that such a thing was OK. You people know who is on the square, but the profane are in the dark. That’s not how a free society works. “Just trust us,” does not cut it.

   > Join. Anyone can join

   I’m not a “joiner.” And those people who are, are suspect in my view.

   > Baphomet and sacrifice goats

   In Turkey you do! Truth is stranger than fiction.

   Masonry Secrets Broadcast in the Past

   A secret recording of ceremonies in Masonic temples were first broadcast on Turkey’s Channel 7 in 1997.

   A Satanic ritual, only allowed for the 33rd-degree masons, was displayed in the candid camera images.

   Masons dressed in white and carrying swords were pouring goat’s blood in bowls in front of Magen David in the temple.

   The goat’s head was being burnt on a stick and the great master holding the ritual was drinking the goat’s blood and praying in Hebrew.

   A ceremony displaying two people’s acceptance to the masonry was displayed in other images.

   Footage from the Lodge: Templars’ Secret Rites on the Screen

   1997 was a hard year for the Masons. Footage filmed inside two separate lodges by hidden cameras was shown on Channel 7 of Turkey repeatedly for days. The scenes captured shocked the Turkish people as well as the Grand Masters of Freemasonry. Some footage recorded the Satan-worshipping rite that can be practiced only at the 33rd degree Grand Master level. The Grand Master conducting the ritual was drinking the blood of a goat killed in the middle of the lodge, and ending the ceremony by offering prayers in Hebrew to Satan. In another scene, as part of a Masonic ritual, two new Masons had swords pushed against their chests and were threatened with death. In yet another scene filmed in the same lodge, a Masonic “marriage ceremony” was being conducted-something that Freemasonry had always denied as non-existent.

   After the airing of this footage, Freemasonry made the center of the news for days. Some newspapers and magazines had also obtained relevant material. Some of the media coverage read:

   The 7th of January, Monday. It’s the 1900 hours news on Channel 7. The main news stories of the day are listed, one after the other, and then the bomb is dropped: footage of rites showing Masons of the 33rd degree. What the Masons are, who they serve, and what kind of activities they engage in, is known but, because of their policy of total secrecy, cannot be exposed. But that’s exactly what is being done on the screen! Shocking scenes of a lodge that only the highest-ranking bureaucrats and other select personalities can attend. Music playing, Satan worship, white robes, swords, a six-pointed star and a slaughtered goat. The blood of the goat fills a bowl; its head is burned on a spit, to the Hebrew prayers of the Grand Master. These strange scenes took place in the middle of Turkey, in Istanbul. Oaths of a strange and confusing content: “Honorable Kadosh Knights, if you break your oath, may your body be torn to pieces by wild horses [and] turned to ashes, the ashes blown away by winds blowing from the four directions…”

   Channel 7 had penetrated the most secret of secret societies and, presumably, were expecting to get the credit for achieving this “world’s first.” But they were stunned at the silence of the mainstream Turkish media. Instead of basking in the glory of this incredible journalistic achievement, they were perplexed by the silence that greeted it. No other channel aired the footage; no newspaper gave it any columns. Total silence. With the practice of getting married by the Imam in the current headlines, the Masonic marriage ritual should have been of interest.

   The footage shot by Channel 7 with a hidden camera actually explains the reason for this silence: Freemasonry’s initiation ceremony is almost like a religious ritual. Candidates are made to wait in a chamber that the camera could not enter, and then have to bend down so as to pass under a bar. While blindfolded, they feel a sword thrust against their chest and are asked to touch it. “If you reveal what you have learned here, you will bear the consequences.” The message is clear. When the blindfold is removed, before they do or say anything, all the brothers facing them make the cut-throat sign.104

   For days now, Channel 7 is airing footage of Freemasonry. This is a journalistic first… Via the secret camera, footage of a Masonic lodge’s initiation ritual is made public. The Masonic front, despite being asked to respond by the media, keeps total silence. Though scenes from inside the oldest and most secretive sect in European history are being aired by Channel 7, no other TV channel takes up the subject. Despite the incredible scenes in the footage, no reaction, no response, nothing. The media ignores the whole thing… Could the oath of secrecy taken by the new recruits on acceptance into the lodge-who go on to become influential and important personalities-be playing a role in this media blackout?105

   After the Masons’ spectacular TV debut, two former Masons who had left the lodge years ago-Mumin Kilic and Onder Aktac-went in front of the cameras to make statements about the dirty practices of Masonry. This issue was also discussed in the Turkish Parliament. Tokat MP Ahmet Fevzi Inceoz requested that the Interior Ministry begin an inquiry into Masonic lodges. Based on the footage shown on TV he reasoned:

   As seen in the footage, the Masonic Society threatens national security and interests. In these lodges, citizens are threatened, illegal marriage ceremonies are conducted, and monies are collected and spent, and unlicensed weapons kept. They operate outside the control and regulations of the security forces, maintain their operational headquarters outside the country, clearly represent a threat to the state-and must therefore be closed down.

   But to no avail. The Masons didn’t respond in any way, and the media they control kept quiet about the affair. Thus the media moved on to other themes and subjects. Today’s Templars, still addressing each other as “Kadosh Knights” managed once more to remain underground as they had for centuries.

10. Max Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am

    I knew this would devolve into nonsense about sacrificing goats. This has been around since the Leo Taxil hoax. As to “personal attacks,” it’s called sarcasm. The two items you posted are from Muslim anti-masonry sites. I would expect such nonsense from these sources. There exists no such “ceremonies.”

    For your edification, there are only three degrees in Craft Masonry. There is no higher degree than that of Master Mason. The three degrees of Craft Masonry conveys a set of moral lessons derived from the Old Testament of the Bible, and the Bible is required to be open upon the altar in a duly opened lodge. Lodge prayer is non-sectarian, as Masonry is worldwide and open to men of all religions. The appendant bodies (AASR, York Rite) are side orders which further expand upon the allegory and symbolism contained in the three degrees. The York Rite, in the Commandery (Knights Templar) are Christian in orientation. The AASR (Scottish Rite) is more esoteric in orientation, but, I’m afraid there is no blood, sacrifice or hideous demons evoked therein. In fact, most of the AASR degrees are not worked, in fact, one becomes a 32cnd degree right off the bat. And before you bring up Morals and Dogma, it is no longer given out. In fact, despite what the tin-foil-hat brigade thinks, Albert Pike had no authority outside the AASR, Southern Jurisdiction of the US - while he was living. Masons from around the world do not acknowledge him as any sort of authority.

    As to cronyism and nepotism, the latter is common among business and government, and involves the hiring of relatives. The former as well. Both are discouraged, and a man found to be using his membership for such finds himself expelled. Any breach of moral law is grounds for expulsion when found out.

    People often fear that which they do not understand, and wild flights of fancy are substituted for truth and common sense.

11. ecliptic Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    When AJ asked Buzz about the gamma rays in space - his reply was that they just aren’t that strong. But is that true? It’s interesting to compare the sunspot count at the time of the Apollo missions - use the handy plotter over @ http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/sunspotplotter.htm?PHPSESSID=js0291tk2l0ea28ca8p31ee5k5

    Normally when sunspots are at the peak of a cycle such as July 20, 1969 there is a corresponding strong solar wind… ( note: I’m not a scientist )

    I’ve read of Russian experiments prior to the Apollo missions in which animals were essentially “fried” by the gamma ray exposure in space. What is the truth? NASA’s own assesment of a “return” of humans to the moon mentions the need for protection from gamma rays in space.

    If gamma rays are very strong in space and especially outside the protection of earth’s Van Allen belts then I challenge anyone to explain how the flimsy lunar module was enough protection? The fact that NASA “lost” the audio for all the moon missions is “convenient” isn’t it? Why was it necessary to build a huge studio mock-up of the lunar surface? Is it really true that the camera equipment they took was able to protect the film from gamma ray exposure and shouldn’t the stars be visible? If you remove almost all of earth’s atmosphere wouldn’t the sky be absolutely jammed with stars? If you ask NASA any of these simple honest questions why do they answer in cirlces with a smirk of ridicule on their faces?

    I’m just sayin!

12. Terry Melanson Says:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    The video is real, and the Turkish press printed details about it - Today’s Zaman is the Turkish press. The video played on Turkish tv, and the Masons were caught red handed. It is not fake, and has never been claimed as such … except for your brethren here who are adept at denying and deriding as a policy. That a so-called “anti-Mason” has provided a summary is due to the fact that he is Turkish! Saw it on tv; reads and writes Turkish.

    For “your edification” the Masons in Turkey have long been infiltrated by the Doenme (Donmeh, Dönmes) sect. Secret followers of Sabbatai Zevi. The Young Turks, too, had many Doenme among their ranks. The Sabbateans get their kicks from “holy sinning.” They are antinomians, and believe that - to bring about redemption - doing evil for evil’s sake is a sacred undertaking. And ever since Jacob Frank they’ve also been revolutionaries.

    Thanks for the condescending speeches though. I wouldn’t expect anything less.

    You are full of assumptions - especially about me. I do not traffic in hoaxes. I acknowledge the Taxil hoax, have for quite some time - even wrote about it in my book - and have consulted the French primary material on it.

13. Phillip D. Collins Says:
    August 24th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Max,

    Here’s a novel idea for ya… try responding to the evidence instead of resorting to cheap insults. Terry supplied the documentation, so respond to it. If you can’t, then just say so.

14. Max Says:
    August 24th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Ah, an author. Is your book published? What is the subject matter? If such a thing as depicted in the video took place in a Masonic lodge, then they should be expelled from the fraternity. I am well aquatinted with the Sabbateans through my researches. As I stated, this does not depict any Masonic ritual - period. As to the Turkish press, do you not think there may be an Islamic influence there? I suspect this was a set-up to discredit Masonry - which radical Islam views as being dupes for the “Zionist Jews.”

15. Max Says:
    August 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am

    @ Ecliptic: You can’t see the stars on the moon photos for a simple reason - the light reflected from the lunar surface overwhelms them, much as they are obliterated by the light pollution from a large city. The reflected light is much worse from the moon.

16. 33rd Says:
    August 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Too bad that I have to burst your bubble, but I am a 33rd Degree Mason and the video from Turkey is bogus.

17. Terry Melanson Says:
    August 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    @Ecliptic

    Watch the Mythbusters episodes on it. I seem to remember they did more than one. And they tested all kinds of things that the conspiracy theorists claim, and proved it “busted!”

    Try this.

    @Phil
    Thanks buddy!

    @Mark
    Perfectibilists: The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati

    > I suspect this was a set-up to discredit
    > Masonry …which radical Islam views as being dupes

    Anything’s possible in a corrupt society, including Freemasonry being duped or used for purposes other than what was originally intended.

    @33rd
    My bubble has not been burst. It could, and it has before. But you have not done so with these 23 words.

18. ecliptic Says:
    August 25th, 2009 at 7:45 am

    @ Max: you’ve been to the moon? That’s incredible. No - you think you know what the conditions are on the moon but your theory about reflectivity is certainly worthy of consideration.

    @ Terry M - mythbusters is to science as George Bush is to English pronunciation …

    Use your brain.

19. Terry Melanson Says:
    August 25th, 2009 at 8:15 am

    Humour me. Watch it and get back to us.

    I suppose I’m biased though. I’ve never been convinced by the arguments of the moon hoax. There will be proof soon enough. I think Japan has an extremely high-res camera on an orbiter and will zoom in on the landing sites with sufficient clarity.

20. Max Says:
    August 25th, 2009 at 11:27 am

    The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is to take images of the landing sites as it passes over them, and the decent stage of the LEMs and the Lunar Rovers will be clearly visable.

    Of course, the conspiracy theorists will not believe it. *rolls eyes*

21. ecliptic Says:
    August 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    . . . nobody say anything about the strongest of the arguments mentioned - the gamma ray eposure and the total lack of viable protection offered by the lunar module or the space suits. NASA’s own advance planning for the “next” lunar mission mentions gamma ray exposure. Why did the Russians suddenly cease trying for a manned mission to the moon? Was it because they learned that the amount of lead shielding required made the entire concept ridiculous? If they really had some kind of advanced thin lightwieght shielding then where is it? Why isn’t every x-ray technician wearing it today? Nope - they’re still using good old fashioned ( and really really heavy ) lead. Nothing like lead for blocking gamma radiation. Today’s commercial pilots are exposed to high levels of exposure to radiation - in our atmosphere. In orbit the shuttle astronauts are exposed to even higher levels. Beyond the earth’s magnetic Van Allen belts the levels of exposure are very high indeed. You would need the protection of lead to survive.

    Where’s the lead in the lunar module?

    Where’s the lead in the spacesuits?

    The lack of atmosphere on the moon negates the argument that reflected sunlight is blocking you from seeing them as on earth. No atmosphere = no “light pollution”. Again, use your brain. We should be seeing at least some stars, if not millions of them in these photos ( which would be ruined quickly by gamma radiation unless they were put immediately into a lead case )

    How did 1969 film make it back without being totally exposed by gamma rays? Where’s the heavy lead case?

    How is it that the still photos are so crystal clear yet the video is atrocious?

    Why are the grid marks askew here and there in the still photos? Were they edited?

    Why no fresh marks in the lunar dust from the landing nozzles? The fine powdery dust should have been slightly cratered by the nozzles.

    Are there two light sources in the still photos? Are there anomalies in the shadow areas of the photos?

    Do the new photos supposedly showing footprints on the moon put the question to rest? Why can’t the military share their existing ultra high resolution technology with themselves ( NASA ) and show us the stuff on the moon clearly? ( which could be faked nicely and would still leave the gamma ray questions . . . )

    Operation Mockingbird and the dumbing down of American “science” through totalitarian government funding-control cause me to look elsewhere for the truth. There is no “consensus” in real science. Real science is never “settled”. Read Michael Crichton’s speech “Aliens Caused Global Warming”. NASA claims they have “lost” all the audio from the Apollo missions. As long as legitimate questions are met with disrespect this will go on. New polls show Americans have serious questions about the Kennedy assasination and September 11th. The government lied us into Vietnam, Iraq I, Iraq II, Afghanistan . . . just about everything else is a huge government lie in partnership with the monoploy media … so to me it’s entirely plausible they simply went up in orbit, made the rest of the thing up at area 51 in Nevada in a huge studio, then came back down from earth orbit and splashed down in the ocean. Free science from government control!

22. scott Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 am

    It is funny how you can go from blog to blog and watch 1 mason contradict another mason over and over. they make fm transmitters so small and when one was placed in the lodge it worked very well i wont say what i have learned so far but i am still learning and alot of what is said on here is true. very true. along with how far some will go to cover it up. another transmitter was placed in a favorite quiet teaching area of a members home again i cant disclose where because this is illigal. however the knowledge learned is priceless. just to know how this world really works is a wonder to me.

23. scott Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 am

    and the reason some choose to change the topic or change to personal insults instead of answering the question or addressing the accusation is taught in the art of lies dont believe me, look it up these are tactics taught to use if you see the arguement loosing weight on your side. and is a favorite tool used by some. and taught to many.

24. texasmason Says:
    November 19th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    Scott, get out of the basement son.

25. truthabstraction Says:
    April 4th, 2010 at 2:24 am

    Scott, your points would be more worthy of consideration if you would check your spelling and refrain from writing in run-on sentences.

    Interesting point about the contradictory statements of Masons, however. They do seem to be full of them.
    In this post alone, one says “only three degrees” while the other claims to be 33°. So which is it, duplicitous double-talkers?

    @ Phil: Amen, brother. They do seem quite adept at avoiding direct questions.

    @ Ecliptic: For my part, I’m with you. Far, FAR too many unanswered and unacknowledged questions about how the Apollo missions could possibly have been successful. What about the so-called “air-conditioned” craft and spacesuits? Or, “the problem of heat exchange in the vacuum of space”? I don’t seem to remember an entire water tower’s worth of H2O being towed behind the capsule, which is probably how much it would have required in order to cool the craft for that long, or anything remotely adequate in the suit design to accommodate the required water.

    Did Mythbusters address that? I didn’t see it, but I find it hard to see how a couple of guys in a garage could replicate the conditions necessary to even approximate a viable explanation for that elephant in the room.

    UNLESS…the MASONIC-FILLED institution known as NASA - which is, quite laughably, still considered a “civilian” agency - LIED to us about an atmosphere on the Moon AND how they really got there, if in fact they did get there.

    It must be one of the two…

    @ Max: The last I checked, one must be invited (or “tapped”) to become a Freemason, and one cannot simply walk into the local Lodge and “join”, as you put it. Or, is that just “conspiracy theory”? Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

    Further, all other issues aside, perhaps a majority of the “profane” just simply don’t like the idea that an exclusive and secretive club, benign or not, is the sole representative of human interest in space (beyond near-Earth orbit, that is).

    You can deny questionable ritual all you want, but you cannot escape the enduring and overwhelming impression of smug elitism, exclusionism, and arrogance. Never mind the constant lying, an example of which is illustrated in this post.

    Maybe that’s quite enough to cause suspicion and distrust in the average taxpayer, don’t you think?

    Wink. Nudge.

26. A MASTER MASON Says:
    August 8th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    For truthabstraction

    I am a Freemason. No one is invited to become a Freemason or trapped as you so ignorantly put it. A man must ask a Mason for a petition, which he will HAPPILY be given, and the following procedurs are followed. If the man is found to be an upright man, TRUST-WORTHY, among other noble characteristics proving himself to be a good man, the procedures are begun for him to become a Mason. I capitalize trust-worthy because of the accusations many make. No, a man can’t just walk into a lodge and magically beocme a Mason, but he can walk up to a Mason and ask for petiton and I repeat, it will be happily given. People who want to know what it takes to be a Mason, sit and talk to many other Masons, from the most educated to the country boy that I am, and you will find that they are willing to bend over backwards to help you; they’ll give you the shirts off their backs. Look at some of the many establishments built by Masons and Shriners that are to help the communities, underprivliged, etc. Example: the Shiners hospitals.

27. John Says:
    December 26th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

    Yer mom wants her computer back! Geez zip yer ..

28. what? Says:
    June 16th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I am a Christian and a Freemason. I see falsehoods in your statement . You accuse Buzz Aldrin of lying. Where is the lie in his opinion on the matter, and how does his and Cooper’s admittance of carrying a Scottish Rite flag prove there is a ‘Masonic influence on NASA’? Someone’s job is not an indicator of influence, any more than a trash collector being a Freemason does not indicate widespread influence of the trash collecting industry. Sure, he may have carried an emblem to the moon. That does not mean he left it there. As conspiracy theorists enjoy showing how images are falsified, it’s strange they accept the purported flag flown on the moon at face-value. I do not see a lie here there in anything Aldrin said. I do see a lie in accusing him of lying.

29. Terry Melanson Says:
    June 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    I’m afraid you don’t understand. The lie is his words in the video, thirty years afterwards. He denied taking it to the moon, when in fact I show that he did. With pictures of him holding it, bringing it back, as well as writing a letter about how proud he was to do it.

30. John Says:
    August 12th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    The world’s had enough of you despicable excuses for humans called Freemasons. You’re one sick, perverted “society” who, as we can see from even THESE posts, believe yourselves to be “upright” (indeed) and TRUST-WORTHY (yes trustworthy inasmuch as you keep the secrets and will always do what is right for you and your brethren alone). As if those who choose not to be one of you are incapable of trust and integrity etc. Those of us who are simply decent men need not hide behind some pathetic cloak of secrecy because our deeds are welcome to be seen and judged by any. But not you sickening excuses for homo sapiens. You make me wish to vomit!

31. John Says:
    August 12th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    As for “trustworthy and upright” - Is that so? Well here’s one of your own just being shown to be a total liar and fraud. So your suggestion doesn’t really hold water now does it? Drop off the edge of the earth and do the rest of the human race a favour!

32. Prince Corey Says:
    August 13th, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Typical naive Masons of the bottom. At least one mason mentioned the Shriners. Morocco. Islam. Keep your heads buried in the sand, you are doing great works for your Master. Where does the 20% of revenue go?

33. Prince Corey Says:
    August 13th, 2011 at 12:12 am

    A Christian Mason, LOL. What an oxymoron.

34. joe Says:
    April 16th, 2012 at 5:53 am

    i feel like Freemason is the best, thank you Buzz, you did the right thing, as you always have.. he is not denying it to smack our fraterniy in the face, he did it so morons like some people dont accuse him of what so many other have for centuries… thats all. Dont think im being closed minded, have opinions… it is good to have freedom of thought and expressions. Open to all thoughts, creeds, religions, races, and everything else. just saying, thank you buzz. for all you have done

35. joe Says:
    April 16th, 2012 at 6:06 am

    and Max! Keep speaking the truth Brother! One sided fights are not my style, but in no way shape or form are you being a hypocrite compared to his pride. Do not judge and do not fall under his creedences, if he joined he could see, but he has to much pride to see, suspect to him? HAHA! Baphomet of goat sacrifice? If he had only knew, Max, you are a true and wise good man i see, the only regret i have is not knowing which lodge this brother of mine attends so i can send you a letter myself!! this “secret society” is no more secret than the thought of what men think? We all come across to think many of things, but in the end? It all comes to the same thought, different words, different phrases, but its all the same
    Subject to persecution because we decide to live our lives free and true to what our fathers hath bestowed us with? For trying to become better men, for becoming something greater than just ourselves with the help of other good men, the persecution rests on the hands of the judge, and no man is that judge? Sp persecute oh great Terry persecute and theorise all your hearts content! And see where it gets you

36. joe Says:
    April 16th, 2012 at 6:16 am

    are they really secrets? Or is it something so simple your brain refuses to believe its true, ehh? And i bet you believe we took down the twin towers, or killed Jesus to huh? Typical of such judgement and hatred over something that rests in the backyard of your city or town in which you reside? What is it that is so secret, friend? Tell me good sir, I dont think it is all to secret when its so simple, refuse the belief, hear what you see and see what you hear in all those conspiracy networks and links? Ever try…. Goin on your nearest Mason lodges website? Or any, for that fact? Or are you to good that you must judge and believe one side of the story for yourself, if were so “evil” than why is it my state lodge sent $60 million to the cancer society to help the cure? fundraising and finding ways to make money for a better cause, thats what evil is to you? Being selfless? Id rather be selfless and everybody thinking i was evil, than be selfish lie and have everyone think i was a good man for it? What honestly is a secret? Something you see and you dont believe? Okay that makes 100% on the logic factor

37. Terry Melanson Says:
    April 16th, 2012 at 10:25 am

    Quite the journalist, that Jones. Kiddy gloves for ole Aldrin.

38. notamasonyet Says:
    June 24th, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    I am thinking of joining the masonic lodge in my town and if I do after I have been there a while I will come back and make the case for or against masonry. The turkish video is freaky but all churches organizations etc can have those inside it who are traders. I read about a masonic judge who was convicted of transporting prostitutes to meetings. There are good men who pretend to be bad and bad men who pretend to be good. No culture, ethnic group or religion is found wanting for true and good people OR for evil men. If a 33rd degree mason says there is no such ritual he is probably telling the truth. Let me say this however that any man who claims to do evil in ORDER for GOOD to come, that mans condemnation is just.

39. Supreme Says:
    August 26th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    Freemasonry and Christianity are not compatible. The unfortunate man who thinks they are need to read Jesus words about swearing ceremonies. Jesus said: Do not swear… say yes if you mean yes and No if you mean No… anything else comes from the Evil One.

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