22 Responses to “The Catholic Church and Freemasonry”

1. Jaimes Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 10:24 pm

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   The following is a list of Masons reprinted with some updates from the Bulletin de l’Occident Chrétien Nr.12, July, 1976, (Directeur Pierre Fautrad a Fye - 72490 Bourg Le Roi.) All of the men on this list, if they in fact be Masons, are excommunicated by Canon Law 2338. Each man’s name is followed by his position, if known; the date he was initiated into Masonry, his code #; and his code name, if known:

   1. Albondi, Alberto. Bishop of Livorno, (Leghorn). Initiated 8-5-58; I.D. # 7-2431.
   2. Abrech, Pio. In the Sacred Congregation Bishops. 11-27-67; # 63-143.
   3. Acquaviva, Sabino. Professor of Religion at the University of Padova, (Padua). 12-3-69; # 275-69.
   4. Alessandro, Father Gottardi. (Addressed as Doctor in Masonic meetings.) President of Fratelli Maristi. 6-14-59.
   5. Angelini Fiorenzo. Bishop of Messenel Greece. 10-14-57; # 14-005.
   6. Argentieri, Benedetto. Patriarch to the Holy See. 3-11-70; # 298-A.
   7. Bea, Augustin. Cardinal. Secretary of State (next to Pope) under Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI.
   8. Baggio, Sebastiano. Cardinal. Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Bishops. (This is a crucial Congregation since it appoints new Bishops.) Secretary of State under Pope John Paul II from 1989 to 1992. 8-14-57; # 85-1640. Masonic code name “SEBA.” He controls consecration of Bishops.
   9. Balboni, Dante. Assistant to the Vatican Pontifical . Commission for Biblical Studies. 7-23-68; # 79-14 “BALDA.”
   10. Baldassarri Salvatore. Bishop of Ravenna, Italy. 2-19-58; # 4315-19. “BALSA.”
   11. Balducci, Ernesto. Religious sculpture artist. 5-16-66; # 1452-3.
   12. Basadonna, Ernesto. Prelate of Milan, 9-14-63; # 9-243. “BASE.”
   13. Batelli, Guilio. Lay member of many scientific academies. 8-24-59; # 29-A. “GIBA.”
   14. Bedeschi, Lorenzo. 2-19-59; # 24-041. “BELO.”
   15. Belloli, Luigi. Rector of Seminar; Lombardy, Ita- ly. 4-6-58; # 22-04. “BELLU.”
   16. Belluchi, Cleto. Coadjutor Bishop of Fermo, Italy. 6-4-68; # 12-217.
   17. Bettazzi, Luigi. Bishop of Ivera, Italy. 5-11-66; # 1347-45. “LUBE.”
   18. Bianchi, Ciovanni. 10-23-69; # 2215-11. “BIGI.”
   19. Biffi, Franco, Msgr. Rector of Church of St. John Lateran Pontifical University. He is head of this University and controls what is being taught. He heard confessions of Pope Paul VI. 8-15-59. “BIFRA.”
   20. Bicarella, Mario. Prelate of Vicenza, Italy. 9-23-64; # 21-014. “BIMA.”
   21. Bonicelli, Gaetano. Bishop of Albano, Italy. 5-12-59; # 63-1428, “BOGA.”
   22. Boretti, Giancarlo. 3-21-65; # 0-241. “BORGI.”
   23. Bovone, Alberto. Substitute Secretary of the Sacred Office. 3-30-67; # 254-3. “ALBO.”
   24. Brini, Mario. Archbishop. Secretary of Chinese, Oriental, and Pagans. Member of Pontifical Commission to Russia. Has control of rewriting Canon Law. 7-7-68; # 15670. “MABRI.”
   25. Bugnini, Annibale. Archbishop.Wrote Novus Ordo Mass. Envoy to Iran, 4-23-63; # 1365-75. “BUAN.”
   26. Buro, Michele. Bishop. Prelate of Pontifical Commission to Latin America, 3-21-69; # 140-2. “BUMI.”
   27. Cacciavillan, Agostino. Secretariat of State. 11-6-60; # 13-154.
   28. Cameli, Umberto. Director in Office of the Ecclesiastical Affairs of Italy in regard to education in Catholic doctrine. 11-17-60; # 9-1436.
   29. Caprile, Giovanni. Director of Catholic Civil Affairs. 9-5-57; # 21-014. “GICA.”
   30. Caputo, Giuseppe. 11-15-71; # 6125-63. “GICAP.”
   31. Casaroli, Agostino. Cardinal. Secretary of State (next to Pope) under Pope John Paul II since July 1, 1979 until retired in 1989. 9-28-57; # 41-076. “CASA.”
   32. Cerruti, Flaminio. Chief of the Office of the University of Congregation Studies. 4-2-60; # 76-2154. “CEFLA.”
   33. Ciarrocchi, Mario. Bishop. 8-23-62; # 123-A. “CIMA.”
   34. Chiavacci, Enrico. Professor of Moral Theology, University of Florence, Italy. 7-2-70; # 121-34. “CHIE.”
   35. Conte, Carmelo. 9-16-67; # 43-096. “CONCA.”
   36. Csele, Alessandro. 3-25-60; # 1354-09. “ALCSE.”
   37. Dadagio, Luigi. Papal Nuncio to Spain. Archbishop of Lero. 9-8-67. # 43-B. “LUDA.”
   38. D’Antonio, Enzio. Archbishop of Trivento. 6-21-69; # 214-53.
   39. De Bous, Donate. Bishop. 6-24-68; # 321-02. “DEBO.”
   40. Del Gallo Reoccagiovane, Luigi. Bishop.
   41. Del Monte, Aldo. Bishop of Novara, Italy. 8-25-69; # 32-012. “ADELMO.”
   42. Faltin, Danielle. 6-4-70; # 9-1207. “FADA.”
   43. Ferraioli, Giuseppe. Member of Sacred Congregation for Public Affairs. 11-24-69; # 004-125. “GIFE.”
   44. Franzoni, Giovanni. 3-2-65; # 2246-47. “FRAGI.”
   45. Gemmiti, Vito. Sacred Congregation of Bishops. 3-25-68; # 54-13. “VIGE.”
   46. Girardi, Giulio. 9-8-70; # 1471-52. “GIG.”
   47. Fiorenzo, Angelinin. Bishop. Title of Commendator of the Holy Spirit. Vicar General of Roman Hospitals. Controls hospital trust funds. Consecrated Bishop 7-19-56; joined Masons 10-14-57.
   48. Giustetti, Massimo. 4-12-70; # 13-065. “GIUMA.”
   49. Gottardi, Alessandro. Procurator and Postulator General of Fratelli Maristi. Archbishop of Trent. 6-13-59; # 2437-14. “ALGO.”
   50. Gozzini, Mario. 5-14-70; # 31-11. “MAGO.”
   51. Grazinai, Carlo. Rector of the Vatican Minor Seminary. 7-23-61; # 156-3. “GRACA.”
   52. Gregagnin, Antonio. Tribune of First Causes for Beatification. 10-19-67; # 8-45. “GREA.”
   53. Gualdrini, Franco. Rector of Capranica. 5-22-61; # 21-352. “GUFRA.”
   54. Ilari, Annibale. Abbot. 3-16-69; # 43-86. “ILA.”
   55. Laghi, Pio. Nunzio, Apostolic Delegate to Argentina, and then to U.S.A. until 1995. 8-24-69; # 0-538. “LAPI.”
   56. Lajolo, Giovanni. Member of Council of Public Affairs of the Church. 7-27-70; # 21-1397. “LAGI.”
   57. Lanzoni, Angelo. Chief of the Office of Secretary of State. 9-24-56; # 6-324. “LANA.”
   58. Levi, Virgillio (alias Levine), Monsignor. Assistant Director of Official Vatican Newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano. Manages Vatican Radio Station. 7-4-58; # 241-3. “VILE.”
   59. Lozza, Lino. Chancellor of Rome Academy of St. Thomas Aquinas of Catholic Religion. 7-23-69; # 12-768. “LOLI.”
   60. Lienart, Achille. Cardinal. Grand Master top Mason. Bishop of Lille, France. Recruits Masons. Was leader of progressive forces at Vatican II Council.
   61. Macchi, Pasquale. Cardinal. Pope Paul’s Prelate of Honour and Private Secretary until he was excommunicated for heresy by Pope Paul VI. Was reinstated by Secretary of State Jean Villot, and made a Cardinal. 4-23-58; # 5463-2. “MAPA.”
   62. Mancini, Italo. Director of Sua Santita. 3-18-68; # l551-142. “MANI.”
   63. Manfrini, Enrico. Lay Consultor of Pontifical Commission of Sacred Art. 2-21-68; # 968-c. “MANE.”
   64. Marchisano, Francesco. Prelate Honour of the Pope. Secretary Congregation for Seminaries and Universities of Studies. 2-4-61; 4536-3. “FRAMA.”
   65. Marcinkus, Paul. American bodyguard for imposter Pope. From Cicero, Illinois. Stands 6′4″. President for Institute for Training Religious. 8-21-67; # 43-649. Called “GORILLA.” Code name “MARPA.”
   66. Marsili, Saltvatore. Abbot of Order of St. Benedict of Finalpia near Modena, Italy. 7-2-63; # 1278-49. “SALMA.”
   67. Mazza, Antonio. Titular Bishop of Velia. Secretary General of Holy Year, 1975. 4-14-71. # 054-329. “MANU.”
   68. Mazzi, Venerio. Member of Council of Public Affairs of the Church. 10-13-66; # 052-s. “MAVE.”
   69. Mazzoni, Pier Luigi. Congregation of Bishops. 9-14-59; # 59-2. “PILUM.”
   70. Maverna, Luigi. Bishop of Chiavari, Genoa, Italy. Assistant General of Italian Catholic Azione. 6-3-68; # 441-c. “LUMA.”
   71. Mensa, Albino. Archbishop of Vercelli, Piedmont, Italy. 7-23-59; # 53-23. ” MENA.”
   72. Messina, Carlo. 3-21-70; # 21-045. “MECA.”
   73. Messina, Zanon (Adele). 9-25-68; # 045-329. ” AMEZ.”
   74. Monduzzi, Dino. Regent to the Prefect of the Pontifical House. 3-11 -67; # 190-2. “MONDI.”
   75. Mongillo, Daimazio. Professor of Dominican Moral Theology, Holy Angels Institute of Roma. 2-16-69; # 2145-22. “MONDA.”
   76. Morgante, Marcello. Bishop of Ascoli Piceno in East Italy. 7-22-55; # 78-3601. MORMA.”
   77. Natalini, Teuzo. Vice President of the Archives of Secretariat of the Vatican. 6-17-67; # 21-44d. “NATE.”
   78. Nigro, Carmelo. Rector of the Seminary, Pontifical of Major Studies. 12-21-70; # 23-154. “CARNI.”
   79. Noe, Virgillio. Head of the Sacred Congregation of Divine Worship. He and Bugnini paid 5 Protestant Ministers and one Jewish Rabbi to create the Novus Ordo Mass. 4-3-61; # 43652-21. “VINO.”
   80. Palestra, Vittorie. He is Legal Council of the Sacred Rota of the Vatican State. 5-6-43; # 1965. “PAVI.”
   81. Pappalardo, Salvatore. Cardinal. Archbishop of Palermo, Sicily. 4-15-68; # 234-07. “SALPA.”
   82. Pasqualetti, Gottardo. 6-15-60; # 4-231. “COPA.”
   83. Pasquinelli, Dante. Council of Nunzio of Madrid. 1-12-69; # 32-124. “PADA.”
   84. Pellegrino, Michele. Cardinal. Called “Protector of the Church”, Archbishop of Torino (Turin, where the Holy Shroud of Jesus is kept). 5-2-60; # 352-36. “PALMI.”
   85. Piana, Giannino. 9-2-70; # 314-52. “GIPI.”
   86. Pimpo, Mario. Vicar of Office of General Affairs. 3-15-70; # 793-43. “PIMA.”
   87. Pinto, Monsignor Pio Vito. Attaché of Secretary of State and Notare of Second Section of Supreme Tribunal and of Apostolic Signature. 4-2-70; # 3317-42. “PIPIVI.”
   88. Poletti, Ugo. Cardinal. Vicar of S.S. Diocese of Rome. Controls clergy of Rome since 3-6-73. Member of Sacred Congregation of Sacraments and of Divine Worship. He is President of Pontifical Works and Preservation of the Faith. Also President of the Liturgical Academy. 2-17-69; # 32-1425. “UPO.”
   89. Rizzi, Monsignor Mario. Sacred Congregation of Oriental Rites. Listed as “Prelate Bishop of Honour of the Holy Father, the Pope.” Works under top-Mason Mario Brini in manipulating Canon Law. 9-16-69; # 43-179. “MARI,” “MONMARI.”
   90. Romita, Florenzo. Was in Sacred Congregation of Clergy. 4-21-56; # 52-142. “FIRO.”
   91. Rogger, Igine. Officer in S.S. (Diocese of Rome). 4-16-68; # 319-13. “IGRO.”
   92. Rossano, Pietro. Sacred Congregation of Non-Christian Religions. 2-12-68; # 3421-a. “PIRO.”
   93. Rovela, Virgillio. 6-12-64; # 32-14. “ROVI.”
   94. Sabbatani, Aurelio. Archbishop of Giustiniana (Giusgno, Milar Province, Italy). First Secretary Supreme Apostolic Segnatura. 6-22-69; # 87-43. “ASA”
   95. Sacchetti, Guilio. Delegate of Governors - Marchese. 8-23-59; # 0991-b. “SAGI.”
   96. Salerno, Francesco. Bishop. Prefect Atti. Eccles. 5-4-62; # 0437-1. “SAFRA”
   97. Santangelo, Franceso. Substitute General of Defense Legal Counsel. 11-12-70; # 32-096. “FRASA.”
   98. Santini, Pietro. Vice Official of the Vicar. 8-23-64; # 326-11. “SAPI.”
   99. Savorelli, Fernando. 1-14-69; # 004-51. “SAFE.”
   100. Savorelli, Renzo. 6-12-65; # 34-692. “RESA.”
   101. Scanagatta, Gaetano. Sacred Congregation of the Clergy. Member of Commission of Pomei and Loreto, Italy. 9-23-71; # 42-023. “GASCA.”
   102. Schasching, Giovanni. 3-18-65; # 6374-23. “GISCHA,” “GESUITA.”
   103. Schierano, Mario. Titular Bishop of Acrida (Acri in Cosenza Province, Italy.) Chief Military Chaplain of the Italian Armed Forces. 7-3-59; #14-3641. “MASCHI.”
   104. Semproni, Domenico. Tribunal of the Vicarate of the Vatican. 4-16-60; # 00-12. “DOSE.”
   105. Sensi, Giuseppe Mario. Titular Archbishop of Sardi (Asia Minor near Smyrna). Papal Nunzio to Portugal. 11-2-67; # 18911-47. “GIMASE.”
   106. Sposito, Luigi. Pontifical Commission for the Archives of the Church in Italy. Head Administrator of the Apostolic Seat of the Vatican.
   107. Suenens, Leo. Cardinal. Title: Protector of the Church of St. Peter in Chains, outside Rome. Promotes Protestant Pentecostalism (Charismatics). Destroyed much Church dogma when he worked in 3 Sacred Congregations: 1) Propagation of the Faith; 2) Rites and Ceremonies in the Liturgy; 3) Seminaries. 6-15-67; # 21-64. “LESU.”
   108. Trabalzini, Dino. Bishop of Rieti (Reate, Peruga, Italy). Auxiliary Bishop of Southern Rome. 2-6-65; # 61-956. “TRADI.”
   109. Travia, Antonio. Titular Archbishop of Termini Imerese. Head of Catholic schools. 9-15-67; # 16-141. “ATRA.”
   110. Trocchi, Vittorio. Secretary for Catholic Laity in Consistory of the Vatican State Consultations. 7-12-62; # 3-896. “TROVI.”
   111. Tucci, Roberto. Director General of Vatican Radio. 6-21-57; # 42-58. “TURO.”
   112. Turoldo, David. 6-9-67; # 191-44. “DATU.”
   113. Vale, Georgio. Priest. Official of Rome Diocese. 2-21-71; # 21-328. “VAGI.”
   114. Vergari, Piero. Head Protocol Officer of the Vatican Office Segnatura. 12-14-70; # 3241-6. “PIVE.”
   115. Villot, Jean. Cardinal. Secretary of State during Pope Paul VI. He is Camerlengo (Treasurer). “JEANNI,” “ZURIGO.”
   116. Zanini, Lino. Titular Archbishop of Adrianopoli, which is Andrianopolis, Turkey. Apostolic Nuncio. Member of the Revered Fabric of St. Peter’s Basilica.

   THE FOLLOWING CLERGY WERE EXPOSED AFTER THE ABOVE LIST WAS COMPILED:

   1. Fregi, Francesco Egisto. 2-14-63; # 1435-87.
   2. Tirelli, Sotiro. 5-16-63; # 1257-9. “TIRSO.”
   3. Cresti, Osvaldo. 5-22-63; # 1653-6. “CRESO.”
   4. Rotardi, Tito. 8-13-63; # 1865-34. “TROTA.”
   5. Orbasi, Igino. 9-17-73; # 1326-97. “ORBI.”
   6. Drusilla, Italia. 10-12-63; # 1653-2. “‘DRUSI ”
   7. Ratosi, Tito. 11-22-63; # 1542-74 “TRATO.”
   8. Crosta, Sante. 11-17-63; # 1254-65. “CROSTAS.

2. Terry Melanson Says:
   June 1st, 2009 at 11:19 pm

   The list of Protestants, Lutherans and Baptists would fill an entire library! What’s your point? Surely it isn’t just hypocrisy you are worried about.

   Here’s a fact for you: Catholics have been Masons since the 18th Century (Priests, Bishops and even a few Cardinals). People generally do what they please. The Pope’s decrees against Freemasonry look good on paper, but the real world is much more nuanced. But they do so at the risk of excommunication. What are the consequences of Protestant clergy who join the Masons? None that I’m aware of. Moreover, Lodges usually have a chaplain, who is invariably a minister or reverend of some Protestant denomination. It’s only in places like corrupt Italy where Masonry is entangled with the Catholic church as well as the Mafia, that you could even conceivably have such an anomaly as a Catholic priest openly being the Lodge chaplain.

3. Jay Dyer Says:
   June 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pm

   I heard once of a priest being a lodge chaplain..I think he did get in some trouble over the matter, though.

4. FW Says:
   June 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm

   Knew about the 74′ Seper Declaration and the 80′ Germans Bishops investigation. Wasn’t aware of the Scandanavian Bishops in 66′ or the ‘Lichtenau Declaration’ of 70′. The 1974 Cardinal Seper statement is the one usually cited for things going wonky. Suprised I hadn’t heard about 1966 or 1970 ones. Just goes to show you how little we know about what is going on inside the Catholic Church sometime. Quite convinced that Pope Paul VI of Vatican II fame was a Freemason now which probably means that the Freemasons have a lot of members inside the College of Cardinals.

   The 1970 Declaration completely turns two centuries of Church Law on Freemasonry on it’s head. The sincerity of the 83′ Declaration by Ratzinger is suspect in my mind now as the 83′ Canon Law revision gutted the old Church Law on Freemasonry.

   Ratzinger’s background with Rahner and Hans Kung is a real mind blower, go through the collection of links and stories. Who knows what to believe or think, that is the way Freemasonry operates - infiltration, deception and deceit.

   http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/hans.kueng.culture.award.german.freemasons.html

5. FW Says:
   June 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 am

   I’m also just finishing off Terry’s book, it does a terrific job of showing exactly how involved Freemasons have been in politics. One other thing I could add is something that was recently reinforced to me after reading Tsoukalas’s book - that Freemasonry uses passages from the New Testament and Christian Hymns in Masonic Ritual with references to Jesus removed from it. There are many instances of this but very few give the Bible passage with it, you have to really know your bible to be aware where the sentence comes from. Tsoukalas is a Pastor as well as a Lecturer at a Bible College and was able to recognize this. He also picked up uses of Old Testament passages in Scottish Rite Ritual with odd changes in it such as removal of references to God’s Judgement. Again where this occurs in the Ritual it doesn’t say it comes from a chapter of the bible, you just have to know the bible really well to be able to pick up on this and then of course see what was changed and then interpret the significance of it. Basically the higher degrees of Freemasonry in the Scottish Rite teach resurrection without Judgement by God or Jesus. There is also a lot of strange stuff in A Bridge to Light about the secret plates of Enoch discovered beneath Solomons Temple which when reading passages from this teaching sound a little like the Angel Moroni plate legend of Mormonism.

   These Catholic Priests and Protestant Pastors involved with Freemasonry must be aware of alot of this because of their superior knowledge of Biblical Script which makes their participation in a defacto denial of Jesus Christ much worse in my opinion. An arguement could be made that many of the inactive christians wouldn’t recognize the biblical passages that they participated in, what the full meaning of it was (although stating they were in a state of darkness during the initiation might have been a hint), but I can’t see any excuse for men who spent as much as 7 years in study (in the case of the catholic priesthood). It is really hard to understand how they can participate in this.

6. Terry Melanson Says:
   June 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 am

   In the case of Protestant pastors maybe it is the need for ritual that attracts them.

   I didn’t know that they had plagiarized from the Bible. I’m going to get Tsoukalas book and see what the evidence is.

   I haven’t really delved that much into the content of the rituals for any secret society. It seems I have been remiss. It makes sense. It is the only sure way to identify exactly what it is they believe and promulgate. Quotations from prominent Masons can go a long way, but the real stuff can only be had in official rites and ceremonies.

7. Jay Dyer Says:
   June 5th, 2009 at 4:05 pm

   FW,

   I agree that there is some evidence Paul VI was a Freemason, and you’re completely correct that bizarre things are going on in the Vatican.

   They participate in it because of simple unbelief and ignorance (with wilful infiltration and malice on the part of some), in my opinion. Unfortunately, Eastern Orthodoxy has had to deal with the same problems of Masonic infiltration, too.

   -Jay

8. FW Says:
   June 6th, 2009 at 6:23 am

   I agree Jay, in fact I think I remember reading something that suggest old Rasputin himself was a Freemason. However I think the Orthodox Church is probably under quite a bit less Freemason influence than the Western Church today because of it’s isolation the past 60 or more years.

   I really dislike making posts or suggestions about the heirarchy of the Church and Freemasonry but it reaches a point where you just can’t ignore the signs of it.

   The Masonic sign use by some members of the Papal delegation during the Washington and Australia visits and the recognition and joke the EWTN panel made of it together with the equally bizarre incident of the 2007 Nativity Scene in St. Peter’s being set in Nazareth instead of Bethlehem are only two of the more recent incidents.

9. lorenzo Says:
   June 7th, 2009 at 3:25 am

   terry asserts that people have a “need for ritual”

   interesting

10. Christopher Ruggiero Says:
    August 13th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    While I do not claim to be an expert on religion, history, politics or theology, I know a little about the teachings of the Torah, Moses, Jesus and Paul. Their are good catholic people however the hierarchy of the Catholic church does everything opposite the teachings of Paul, from praying with their heads covered to telling priests not to marry and the ridiculous canonization of “saints” the list goes on. While he does have the position of Disciple Peter is not the cornerstone of anything. The government of the Catholic church itself is a sneer at God because only Jesus will install a government when he returns. The wheat and the chaff clearly are growing together. My point is God has purposes for all of us noble or not, the Catholic Church more than likely will crown the Anti-Christ just like it crowned Napoleon.

11. Jason Says:
    August 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    The still-unreleased 3rd secret of Fatima warned against Vatican II, the new “mass,” and evil churchmen. All 3 are responsible for the shrinking of the Catholic Church. The Vatican is no longer Catholic. True Catholics resist Vatican II and the novus ordo “mass.” Freemasons and many anti-Catholics have infiltrated the Vatican and the Church all over the world. The goal of Freemasonry is to destroy Christianity, namely the Catholic Church because they know the Catholic Church is The Church of Christ. But they will not succeed. Christ told us that the gates of Hell will not prevail over His Church. The Church may appear to be dead one day but will rise up as Christ did.

12. shannis Says:
    April 13th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    as a 18 year old girl that is religious by choice. my question and concern with the whole illuminati thing is false in my eyes it is hard to step into some panicy-box of conspiracy and lies…i might be religious but im not nieve. this is too much to me. this thing about every famous person that made an impact on the world as a whole whether in music or politics is either with illuminati or they are a freemasonary…i am not confused i am just pissed off that i can nolonger enjoy anything without some civilian telling me about the end is near and some other paranoid antics…in short if the illuminati is real and have been in existence sense time before, what made “them” want to uproot a world of worry and panic…why show up now…isn’t it bad enough that people are guilble enough to believe that the world will end in 2012?
    if you feel im am too young to understand please help me out…see you in 2013…

13. noddy Says:
    July 4th, 2010 at 6:57 am

    Novus Order missie is a substitute mass for the Mass of all time ie Traditional Tridentine Latin Mass,why ? because it doesn’t restrain Satan the way the T.T.L.Mass does.!!
    Are we to believe the Masons found in the Church are there as agents of Christ??( alta vandetta - Pope Leo xiii)

14. Pepster Says:
    July 5th, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    I am a catholic and a Freemason i smile, sometimes shake my head, and most often am shocked and annoyed at anti- mason dialogue I have been a freemason for 30years and i have never heard any ideas of concern about the craft destroying the catholic church or the Vatican and any other faith I’ve sat as Master of the Lodge, freemasonry is fraternal if the tenets of freemasonrywere observed we would be sleeping with our doors open . In my experience i have seen Jew embrace Muslim, and recently a Brother Turk present a gift to a Greek at an installation, Masons all.Like many large organizations we have some undesirables and eventually they are cast out. The conspirators love to pick on the Masons due to our so called secrets.When i pray i pray to Jesus Christ, and Mary. When the time comes that i meet our savior Jesus and the Book Of Life is opened and all that is there is I was Freemason i will expect The Lord to say well done good and faithful servant enter thou into the joy of thou Lord.

15. meignnar Says:
    October 26th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    I have been brought up in a catholic background but havent been a real believer of all that stuff
    they do or say,but i believe strongly that there is God who liveth and my life sustainer, soul
    provider and whom i worship.since i reached 16 i hated going to church andall i do is stay home
    pray in the morning and evening.The point is i have always admired being a freemason but
    my friends tell me inorder to join i must sacrifice one of my family member,is it true?and do theiy really need that human sacrifice?coz i believe human sacrifice is no good for God.
    please help.

16. Sandra Says:
    September 28th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    The Novus Ordo Missae was concocted during Vatican II, during the 1960s and at least 3 non-Catholic authorities were responsible for assisting at its Demoniacal birth. Yes, I and my late Dad hated the New Mass, while my Mum and paternal Nan, loved it. I have raised my daughter (now 24), with Traditional Values and we assist when we can, due to ill health, as we have to travel up to 50 miles but we’d rather do that, when possible, than go 10 minutes into town, to the Catholic Cathedral, where I grew up and was married from. It’s only curiosity, that would get me to peek in there, to see what further damage has been done. The main altar was brought forward from the sanctuary wall to be replaced by the Bishops Throne, before replaced by a stone slab across two stone pillars, reminiscent of Stonehenge, Wiltshire, in the early 1960s, then ripped the beautiful gilded angel altar rails out in 1982/3, by the 1990s, the Sanctuary Lamp had disappeared and don’t get me started on Altar Servers, male and female.
    The Novus Ordo will not bring anyone to God, more like the other fella, Satan, who never does a better job of anything, than when he convinces people, that he doesn’t exist.

17. Doug Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I am truly confused. I am catholic and have been a teacher of the faith for many years, having grown up in both the pre and post Vatican II era. For years, I have been approached and while not solicited, have been enthusiastically welcomed to petition Freemasonry for membership on mumerous occasions. For the life of me (no pun intended), I cannot understand why I have been approached so many times and have even been told that I, “would be good at it” by a high ranking member of a Masonic rite. When I research Freemasonry, I find many many teachings and opinions that strongly oppose it; however, most of this opposition comes from protestant sources, which are anti-catholic, thus, by my observation, sources which are in opposition to traditional Christianity. I am of a Jewish blood line that produced many generations of faithful catholics. Wishing to be a better person and to pursue elevation as an individual, I have petitioned the local lodge and await a response. My plan is to enter with eyes spiritually open and hope for the guidance of God as I either walk through this valley or climb this mountain. I seek and welcome guidance.

18. Terry Melanson Says:
    October 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Freemasonry practically equals Protestantism, and Universalism in particular. The Catholic hierarchy, however, has been officially opposed to Freemasonry since the 1730s when its spread throughout Europe became apparent. You’re thinking’s a bit off by expecting to nonchalantly just join Freemasonry and still consider yourself Catholic and “teacher of the faith.” The Masons will take you, sure, but you can and will certainly be ostracised by Catholicism-proper.

19. Raymond Conder Says:
    November 25th, 2011 at 5:58 am

    why cant abortionists be charged for crimes against humanity? why cant politicians who legislate in favor of abortion be charged for crimes against humanity? isnt there something fundamentally wrong with the laws which govern the land in which we live? is freemasonry a factor in everything. Go to SilentScream on YouTube.

20. anonymous Says:
    September 9th, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Why do you guys assume that about the religion? God had said to not talk bad about other religions. What you guys are saying is bad. God doesn’t like that. Plus many miracles has happened in my religion. If some stuff had happened in the past that was bad, it’s not happening again and etc.

    Plus some stuff had happened thru out the years and was added, okay? It’s fine that you stick to your OWN opinion about a religion you don’t really follow, but it’s bad enough when you start talking bad about other people’s religion.

21. Leon Says:
    December 27th, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    I have been a practicing mason for 36 years and all of a sudden I’m to be excommunicated if I do not abject to all degrees taken. I have not seen or been involved in any teachings against the Caholic Church. I have never heard anything discussed agains the Catholic Church. I approached my priest in 1976 and inquired about joining the masons beore joining. I did not get any derogatory information so I joined. Where did I go wrong??

22. Emom Says:
    February 17th, 2013 at 8:37 am

    The catholic church is against freemason.if u insist on becoming a freemason,please just leave the catholic Church!!! As simple as that.freemasonary is a satanic occultic organisation,we cant serve two masters.all freemasons that call themselves catholics are bold spies of the devil and should be treated asuch

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