Conspiracy of big wigs ruling world
Congratulations, it’s your lucky day. Merely plow on-ward for a few paragraphs and you will have the rare privilege of saying you once read about the Bilderberg Group in a daily news article.
Oh, sure, there are over a million feverish Internet pages on the phenomenon, and you can buy plenty of self-published books about it from obscure mail-order houses in Texas, but the mainstream media usually don’t have much to say about it–largely because there simply isn’t much to talk about that doesn’t quickly get embarrassing if you want to believe that the western world is a democratically run operation.
That’s because the Group, which consists of up to 150 self-selected world leaders in royalty, politics, business and media, meets annually at a secret location and releases neither an agenda, nor a list of attendees, nor any record of what was discussed at the conference.
Named for the Dutch hotel where it first occurred in 1954, its original purpose was ostensibly to harmonize North American and European interests at a time when considerable postwar animosity existed. Its continuing purpose? Like I say, extremely difficult to know.
To learn anything at all, one needs to tune into a small cadre of reporters who make it their business to penetrate the secrecy –or as Bilderberg apologists prefer to call it, their “privacy.” One of them is Daniel Estulin, a Russianborn journalist who lived for many years in Canada but, claiming CIA harassment, moved to Spain about 15 years ago.
Estulin, author of a bestselling book called The True Story of the Bilderberg Club, cultivates insider contacts, and thus was the first to report that the 2009 Bilderberg Group will meet this week, from May 14 to 17, at the five-star Nafsika Astir Palace Hotel in Greece.
Who’s likely to take the oath of silence this year at what has been called a “shadow supergovernment?” Sundry princes, Timothy Geithner, CEOs of multinational corporations, David Rockefeller, the editor of the New York Times, plus the man known as the arch-Bilderberger, Henry Kissinger. (It’s unlikely that frequent attendee Conrad Black will be getting a weekend pass.)
The enduring agenda, writes Estulin, is globalism. He contends, for example, that the idea of the euro currency was first floated at a Bilderberg meeting, and when Margaret Thatcher angrily refused Britain’s involvement, she was summarily removed from power. As the London Times put it in 1977, the Bilderbergers are “a clique of the richest, economically and politically most powerful and influential men in the western world, who meet secretly to plan events that later appear just to happen.”
Based on leaked information from the 2006 conference, which took place near Ottawa, Estulin is said to have accurately predicted the subsequent collapse of the U. S. housing market and the 2008 financial meltdown.
If that’s true, perhaps you don’t want to read what Estulin’s sources tell him is on the docket this year: “Either a prolonged, agonizing depression that dooms the world to decades of stagnation, decline and poverty . . . or an intense-but-shorter depression that paves the way for a new sustainable economic world order, with less sovereignty but more efficiency.”
Yikes. No wonder newspapers don’t want to pry too deeply into that bucket of snakes.
It gets comic, though. Last year the event took place at a Marriott Hotel in Chantilly, Va. Critics of the affair laughed at the fact that the regional newspaper, the Chantilly Times, a publication whose fixation on local doings extends even to pet rescues, had absolutely nothing to say about the gathering of 150 of the world’s most famous people on its main street.
But again, what can you say? Say anything, and you’re accused of peddling conspiracy theories. Somehow, though, the C-word does not apply to this particular secret society. Hey, maybe they’re just having a few drinks and laughs.
So pay no attention to the Kissingers behind the curtain.
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May 13th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
What can be done to stop this drop a mail if any1 has a plan 206037066@cput.ac.za
May 13th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
The above post seems a bit suspicious to me. No offense if to the poster if my paranoia is misplaced. “cput.ac.za” is Cape Peninsula University of Technology in South Africa. It is a university focusing mostly on information technology. The anonymity of the email address could point towards it being a some kind of government entrapment meant to sucker in gullible anti-N.W.O types into “planning” terrorist acts or at the very least getting themselves on some kind of data collection list. Then again maybe the anonymity of the email address just reflects that Ally is smart enough to create a random address to receive any potentially dangerous communications.
As to what can be done to stop this, I figure a lot of what goes on here is at least the beginning. That is to say, if information on the questionable, often outright illegal, activities of globalists elitists can be disseminate to the public and a mature an accurate understanding of the whole picture can be arrived at, then people can start opposing these kinds of things through legal protests and the democratic process, perhaps even by starting new political parties if necessary.
Arrangements are being made for Global political integration by numerous individuals, many of whom were neither democratically elected or even appointed by any one who was elected. This is often done in a clandestine manner and when people do find out about it the perpetrators act like they are acting in accordance with the general will of the world’s people. If that’s so let’s have some transparency and take it to a vote. Of course given the way the voting public can be manipulate that probably would still work in the Globalists favor, but if enough real info can be gotten out concerning their technocratic machinations perhaps the masses will wake up kick these bums out.
May 13th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
He that has the gold, makes the rules. Problem is, our money had been separated from the gold standard. We now have worthless toilet paper for money. They steal the fruits of our labor with inflation, deflation, recession, depression and taxation. The reduce our population by poisoning our foods in cans, jars, and boxes. They poison our water with flouride and chlorine. They poison our air with chem trails. They poison our minds in schools and on TV, Radio, Movies with propoganda and excessive and gratuitious violence, murder and sex. Their never ending wars, which make rich men richer by interests to the military industrial complex, causes war, famine, pollution, and diseases. We were doomed from the start in a very slow process. We must put these rich SOBs our of business and can the One World Government, Religion, and Monetary Systerm. Do not take your flu shot or Mark of the Beast, reject their government, religion and money.
The only way to force the bankers to come to heel, is to not use fiat money. I will trade you eggs for milk. We need to learn to return to our pilgrim beginnings, grow our own food, trap animals, fish, hunt, and gather food stuffs. Ditch their worthless paper, learn to hunt, shoot, trap, fish, and reload our guns and sharpen our knives. The battle is here at our doorstep. As they close businesses, you lose your homes and cars, they are prepared for the war of the haves against the have nots. We must escape, evade, survive and if necessary attack the oppressors, aka banksters. Just for starters, what say you.
May 16th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Greetings
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So what are you doing about it?
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May 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Or don’t. This seems to be part of a scam to sell you New Age health care and perhaps also real estate in Costa Rica. Looks to be run by a bunch of New Age, Holistic Healing Gurus. Check it out here.
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I’m not sure what they think their Zen Health Spa or whatever it is has to do with confounding Globalist politics. Perhaps it’s some kind of Zeitgeist type bunk. Who knows. Anyway forwarned is forarmed.
May 18th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
@Ross: Thanks for the update.
@ChristianPatriot13: I would agree with you but how can you do all these things when your state owns all land. If you don’t pay taxes on the land they’ll take it away from you. We’re already in the system whether we like it or not. We need to change the rules, if we can, to limit the government, limit the terms, repeal the laws that create loop holes in our republic. Maybe even convert to a real democracy. Ultimately all these things must happen for us to be free again.
May 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I think we all forget or don’t realize that what is happening is something that must happen. This is truly a war between God and His created being “Lucifer”.
The sin that Satan originally acted upon was pride. And pride, to me, means nothing else than proclaiming “I am” or in other words “I am god”.
It seems to me that the Bilderberg, CFR and all the other secret societies all reflect the luciferian ideology also know as humanism or sometimes known as eugenics.
In my eyes everything that has happened and will happen is a direct result of mankind becoming enslaved for the benefit of a few.
With the same concept in mind please don’t see space aliens as anything other than Angles or fallen Angels (demons). If the Bible is correct then there has been only 2 created beings with a similarity to God. Angels and Humans. There are Angels that do God’s Will and angels that do their own will.
Your thoughts?
May 18th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
@theMessenger
Basically, I agree with everything you’ve said. Let’s try and change the flaws in the system and let’s not lose sight of the fact that all this is ultimately a spiritual struggle that the Devil is bound to lose and God is bound to win. As human beings is up to us to make sure we’re on the right side.
May 18th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Messenger, what you say has a ring of truth. There will always be negative and positive, that’s how we are, we can’t get away from that. It’s not really pride, it’s more - me,me,me! We are all so far removed from us,us,us, that we may never see it - maybe when we leave this life, maybe then we can once again claim our birthright. I can’t say it’s impossible to reclaim our powers, but, it would be hard to do esp. if it’s all me,me,me.
Does this make sense?
May 18th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
i have to agree with the messenger! governments should fear its people not the other way round like it is in today’s society. if we look at the recent mp scandal in the UK where mps are defrauding the tax payer and tax man out of thousands a year and yet no punishment yet if where do to this i would be locked up. .how ever as for your second comment about God and Lucifer i have to say it what a pile of crap! your theory would be sound but you have to remember Religion by which i mean the main ones which refer to the testaments as their holy book. Christianity, Muslim, Judaism to mention a few, are the real secret society’s only they do it so blatantly in your face its insulting! Religion is the worship of a God but not the one they portray Money is the real God they worship.its mans greed his natural instinct it is how we have survived for so long! this has nothing to do with the fictitious character Satan. people open your eyes. just use rationality no religion can stand up to that and if they do please let me know. so lets get rid of this organized crime disguised as religion and start to rebuild this planet we live on.
please share your thoughts
May 19th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Geffen, I’m not sure if you’re saying that there is no God period or merely that all the Abrahamic religions are bad. I’m also not sure if you also include Hinduism, Buddhism and the various other non-Abrahamic faiths too. Regardless, there are several flaws to your logic. First of all, if religion, as you say is only about money, how do you explain the many people who have been inspired by their religious convictions to rejected material gain. Granted there are many charlatan’s who use religion to rip people off by there are also many more people who put the ideals of their faith above money. The very fact that Con-Men are able to exploit people’s need for spiritual fulfillment, points to the fact that humanity has an innate spiritual dimension.
Your next major logical flaw pushes you dangerously towards the philosophy that governs many of the Global Elite themselves. If self serving greed is a survival mechanism that forwarded man’s evolution, and there is no God or moral order transcendent of mere subjective opinion, then on what ground do we critique the behavior of the Totalitarian Elite? In this atheistic picture bad and good are simply matters of individual perspective. The elite see themselves as good because they are fostering their own evolutionary dominance. Conversely, we see them as bad because they are undermining ours. We can contextualize the whole thing as an evolutionary war and fight back against them but we cannot “rationally” critique their actions as immoral. In Naturalist terms, they are just doing what any of us would do, given the opportunity. The same goes for people who abuse religion to forward their own end. In an non-religious worldview, they are merely taking hold of an opportunity to ascend the Darwinian ladder. This kind of behaviour cannot be rationally rejected unless one believes in transcendent moral absolutes otherwise the ultimate law, in all rational honesty, is simply the Law of the Jungle.
Communist regimes such as the U.S.S.R, China and North Korea to name a few, all rejected theistic religion in favour of what was supposedly atheistic reason. All this lead to was mass genocide and violent political oppression. The Enlightenment, the crucible in which the Bavarian Illuminati was formed, worshiped Reason above all else and this ushered in the first French Revolution, which massacred many thousands before collapsing in on itself and being taken over by the dictatorial rule of Napolean.
Additionally, if we lack a spiritual component beyond our physical bodies, and admit that consciousness is merely a phenomenon arising from material interactions, as atheism posits, then we must further admit, since physical substance is controlled by immutable natural laws, that everything that occurs in the universe is merely following an unalterable course, predetermined from the beginning of time. If this is so, though most atheist never bother to grapple with the ramifications, then no human course of action can be legitimately critiqued, morally or otherwise, since the notion of free will itself is purely an illusion. We are no more than a row of falling dominoes. Only if there is some force exterior to the causal chain of physical events, can their be said to be true Free Will. This is what we unreasoning religious hicks call a soul.
The world’s power Elite are working completely rationally within their own belief system. “If there is no God, I must become him!”
PS: None of this is meant to suggest that there are no good atheist, so don’t bother responding with a list of all the good atheist that ever lived and all the bums that have been theists. I fully admit that there are good and bad people in all camps. My point is only that one cannot provide an ultimate, rational justification for moral actions that go against enlightened self interest in a atheistic materialistic paradigm. Therefore to say that the struggle against Elite criminality and indeed the struggle of life itself are in the end spiritual battles, is hardly that irrational a statement at all.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Ross i do agree with parts of what you say and i believe that i did not put my point across clearly, i am not having a dig at religious people. its the people behind these big religions i am concerned about. During the industrial revolution it was mandatory that all factory workers attended church of a Sunday. if they did not they where subjected to pay cuts and some times the loss of a job. where is the morality in this? Communism was a good idea in theory i hope i can say that with out being tracked down and incarcerated
. obviously there where some MAJOR flaws in the idea!. It is mans lust for power and greed which caused them to fail.
” The very fact that Con-Men are able to exploit people’s need for spiritual fulfillment, points to the fact that humanity has an innate spiritual dimension”
“Therefore to say that the struggle against Elite criminality and indeed the struggle of life itself are in the end spiritual battles, is hardly that irrational a statement at all.”
i think we do have an innate spiritual dimension, how ever i think we have misinterpreted this as our quest for god. it is our quest for answers it is why we are talking on computers right now and my cat is sitting next to me liking her self. if there was a higher power/ being whom created all beings big and small then why do no animals have no faith or religion? we are god to them because we hold power.
“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. ”
i think that says it perfectly.
“The same goes for people who abuse religion to forward their own end”
kill the root and the plant dies.
let people believe in what they will i have no problem with that its just when people start dictating how they should believe, this is when we start having problems.
“then no human course of action can be legitimately critiqued, morally or otherwise, since the notion of free will itself is purely an illusion. We are no more than a row of falling dominoes. Only if there is some force exterior to the causal chain of physical events, can their be said to be true Free Will. This is what we unreasoning religious hicks call a soul.”
i have always had a problem with the morals of today, i know if i where to kill someone it would be wrong! i know this but why is it wrong? because i have been told this by the society i live in. which is run by a government whom get most of our laws from the dark ages when the church ruled a substantial part of the world, even then they where controlling society
same goes for Sharia law.
P.s sorry to have gone of the subject. also apologies as i fear i may have come across a bit strong last time and i did not mean to offend any one. i do hope there is a god but i find it hard to believe.
May 19th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Pps as for Hinduism and Buddhism i do not know a lot about them to comment on them.
May 20th, 2009 at 2:20 am
The idea that the church wields any substantial control over the majority of today’s power Elite hardly seems backed up by the facts. Christianity is constantly mocked and berated in the mainstream media that is allegedly controlled by today’s elite. It is perfectly acceptable to constantly depict Christians in sitcoms, tv dramas, movies etc as all being ignorant, intolerant assholes with a stick up their ass. People who already have a problem with religion don’t see this though, since it doesn’t particularly offend them. If some other group were the object of such derision it would be considered bigotry but for whatever reason this doesn’t seem to apply when directed at Catholics, evangelicals and the like. Admittedly, elitists like George W. Bush and his ilk, have exploited Christianity to forward their own political goals but, over all I think he is just a self serving pragmatists who knows how to play to his particular voting base. It has largely been Christians, who have opposed many of the elite’s most heinous projects over the last century, specifically eugenics and it’s modern iteration abortion. This is certainly one of the reasons why the elite have fixed their cannons on Christianity.
“if there was a higher power/ being whom created all beings big and small then why do no animals have no faith or religion?”
First of all, how do you know animals don’t worship God in some way of their own? Secondly, even if they don’t, that in no way disproves the existence of God. They’re also incapable of of performing higher mathematics and that certainly doesn’t mean mathematical principles aren’t real. In the Judeo-Christian world view Man is considered the paramount of God’s creation specifically because he alone has the capacity to worship God.
“let people believe in what they will i have no problem with that its just when people start dictating how they should believe, this is when we start having problems.”
Unfortunately, this is a self-refuting statement. To tell people not to make moral prescriptions is itself a moral prescription. Therefore, the whole argument completely cancels itself out. If, however you mean people shouldn’t have religion forced on them by a theocratic government I agree. Not because I have a problem with religion but rather because I believe religion is a matter of one’s, soul or internal convictions, therefore things that are directly forced by an all powerful state simply become a matter of appearances not internal spiritual realities.
“i have always had a problem with the morals of today, i know if i where to kill someone it would be wrong! i know this but why is it wrong? because i have been told this by the society i live in. which is run by a government whom get most of our laws from the dark ages when the church ruled a substantial part of the world, even then they where controlling society”
If you only know right and wrong through social conditioning, as was already my point in my initial response, then you cannot really make logical criticisms that any act as immoral. Do you really think you only know murder to be wrong because it is an inherited value from the medieval church? If this is the case you must then explain how Medieval society acquired this particular tradition that they so rudely imposed on us (Those Church bastards, who are they to tell us that we shouldn’t kill each other? ) Ultimately, atheistic theorizing is forced to explain human moral laws in relation to evolution. We simply invented laws, because we are willing to trade in our own freedom to inflict pain on others for the right to have it not inflicted on us. This might explain a social system of communal protection, however it says nothing about actual morality. It doesn’t explain why we shouldn’t do evil to others even if we can completely get away with it. It doesn’t explain why we should do good to others even if we have nothing to gain and everything to lose. None of these kinds of actions can be logically justified in a purely atheistic paradigm. And if you were to say, “that’s why an atheists is a truly moral person, because they do these things with no justification!” then that itself implies the absolute reality of a moral standard above, Darwinian species survival strategies. If we admit that such moral absolutes are objectively real, but also admit that they aren’t scientifically quantifiable things that can be weighed and measured in a lab, then we are essentially saying that they inhabit a ground exterior to this physical plane of existence.
Now, I addressed your point about animals, so do me a favour and address my point about Free Will. I’ll reiterate it in point form.
1: To criticize someone’s action implies that they have a choice in their actions.
2: Choice means the real ability to make events go in one direction or another.
3: This implies the existence of a force above determinism.
4: Determinism refers to any event that is inevitably going to happen due to an inevitable chain of prior circumstances.
5: Science admits that all events operate within the confines of immutable physical laws.
6: The exact course of all particles is thereby predetermined by these physical laws.
7: Therefore, all physical phenomenon in the universe can be said to be deterministic.
8: If, we have no non physical component (that is to say a soul), as atheism generally insists, then we are merely a material arrogate of physical parts.
9: If this is so, we to are completely subject to immutable physical laws and by extension determinism.
10: If this is the case, despite our illusions to the contrary, we have no real choice or Free Will in anything we do.
11: Therefore, all moral criticism of anyone’s actions is effectively meaningless.
Now, if you say that we do have the ability to alter the course of material causality, that implies that part of us is something other than a bunch of chemicals, electrons and the like. How do you explain this without effectively appealing to the existence of an immaterial soul?
I’d say more about Communism, because I think it is a necessary to hold it up to the light of public criticism, but it’ll have to wait to tomorrow because I really need to go to bed right now. I gotta stop checking these posts at 12:00 on a work night.
PS: “also apologies as i fear i may have come across a bit strong last time and i did not mean to offend any one. i do hope there is a god but i find it hard to believe.” Don’t worry too much about offending anyone. In the quest for truth through debate we all need to develop a bit of a thick skin. I’m glad you at least hope there is a god. Hopefully in time he will illuminate your heart and mind to the reality of his existence. It isn’t always easy to see him in today’s society but I assure you he is there. Anyway, Good night and God bless to you and your cat.
May 20th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Ross,
free will is a bit of a tricky one and i really dont know how to explain my self to be honest (or free will).
if i am honest i am out of my depth in this debate.
however i do apreciate your previous response’s as they have given me a lot to think about, and i have done a lot of reading over the past two days which has been enlighting so thank you again.
im sorry if you feel abit cheated with out an answer. but plese i would like to know more about the elite power so please email me any thing you have on the subject my email is geffen43@gmail.com. if you google me im afraid you shall most likely come across my social website pages.
Thank you again Ross
Geffen
May 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Cool. Glad to talk with you Geffen. I might drop you an email some time.