Comments on: “Blatant Masonic Temple Right Next To Lenin Statue”

By: Terry Melanson

Terry Melanson — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:36:57 +0000

Well you seem to be proud of it so live with it. Nearly every single picture for the Lenin statue has your masonic banner prominently displayed in the background. Nice.

By: Charles Berry

Charles Berry — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:23:53 +0000

The various comments about the Lenin Statue near the Masonic Lodge in Fremont are mostly silly nonsense. A group of hardworking pioneers established the Doric #92 Lodge in Fremont in 1893. The Temple was completed in 1909 and had two commercial tenants in addition to Lodge facilities. They were the Fremont Hardware Co., in existence until 1991, and the Fremont Undertaking Co., which continued operation under different names until the late 1970’s.

The Lenin Statue has nothing at all to do with Doric Lodge #92. It does not sit on Lodge property.

I know all this because I am on the Temple Board of Doric Lodge– (that is I am one of the people who own and run the building and pay the property taxes.) An concise and accurate history of Doric Lodge can be found at this link: http://www.doric92.org/history.html

–PLEASE— People really should read, and learn a little history, before speaking or writing about Masons.

By: con b

con b — Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:00:26 +0000

Lenin was the greatest man of the 20th century.

By: chad

chad — Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:38:44 +0000

does anyone know what that lodge is all about i went there today i know about the Illuminati and free masons but what i cant decide is if the free masons are bad good or both and if i wanna join that lodge or not and if i could if i wanted to and what are they like are they even real are free masons in the Illuminati i know some masons are in the Illuminati or somebody wants us to think they are atleast?

By: Terry Melanson

Terry Melanson — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:23:47 +0000

Brilliant!

Pull My finger comrade

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 02:47:40 +0000

The property is not owned by Doric Masonic Lodge, but Doric Lodge is the oldest corporation in Fremont.

That aside, one point of historical significance that is being over looked. Almost Live (KING 5) I believe is the show that hooked up the Fart machine to Lenin’s finger and then filmed the reactions. They hung a sign that said, “pull my finger”. It was a great bit and it shows that the statue of Lenin is going to good use.

By: Urdu

Urdu — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 07:18:19 +0000

I found this very informative and helpful. I am sure others are also going to.

By: Rosemarie Yacovone

Rosemarie Yacovone — Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:56:39 +0000

Thanks, really interesting. I was born in Russia in 1959 but my parents fled and came here in the UK. Truthfully, I didnt really care much about my russian history until my mother died last month, now I’ve been trying to find out as much as I can. Seemed like food culture was as good a place as any to start from! You dont generally hear much about russian cooking do you? Anyway, I found a lot of russian recipes here that other readers might be interested in .

By: victor

victor — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:20:02 +0000

dear all people who wants to change the image of lenin .Lenin was the hero he continue wat marx did so when lenin was the leader of russia the masons was doing there best to end this and at the end they did by puting stalin with lenin and by making a fake pic putiing stalin with lenin and they were not close wat i wanna say lenin was as marx against masons and against there project and there believes a communist leader cannot be federal and masons at the same time stop playing in people minds

By: Art Smith

Art Smith — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:43:07 +0000

Hi-Please, someone do a little research in Sufi literature or possibly some Easstern writers evaluating the origins of the Masonic Order in the East. When Eastern esoteric orders are almnost totally transferred to the West they tend to change in value, intent and oh yes, the way Western people generally live out what they say they believe in. Your point about how little we in the West have put skilled work in the art world vs China is my parallel for generally how much skill,devotion,effort,ect. we of the West put into our beliefs,and esoteric orders like the Masons not to mention our religious orders espousing “Western Christianity”. I gave up looking for any writers or teachers of anything artistic or devotional in the West, but found them arriving from the East and plenty of written works from the East,but more translations are needed…It is very offensive to hear about peoples quick judgement of an ancient order like the Masons from a superficial analysis of those in the West who set up so-called Masonic orders or any so-called artisic or devotional organization.I’m not saying there is no validity of these orders in the West, however, why don’t we see anyone of the Western Orders that has links with people of the East who know how the original orders are maintained. I cannot imagine hardly anyone in the West that can preform,for instance an initiation or rite pertaining to these Orders as well as the people of the East who are connected with the original Orders as they were functioning in the East in ancient times.. Hitler is an example of how corruption can appear when evil is mixed with an ancient symbol like the fire sign that he stole from the ancients(mainly indiginous peoples),making the fire sign “appear” evil. Therefore, beware when judging Orders from the East that have been used by ignorant manipulators and evil doers who try to ursurp the purity of the Eastern Orders. The very assumtion that the Masonic Order of the ancients can be the same as the versions we generally see in the West or especially represented by horrible “people” as you named-”people of false power” shows how easily people can build a prejudice on false evidence, not having researched the true origins of anything esoteric . regards,Art

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:30:33 +0000

Just another Idol??? Lenin is not to be admired for the simple fact–HE IS A MURDERER. To preserve his image into art doesn’t seem like a good idea. Looking at sculptors can move deep emotions that dwell within. I would have to ask—What is the purpose of this statue? I think the answer to this question has become clear in this blog. Masonic connection?–YES–Designed by the nearby lodge?–Maybe–but most likely not–By a force that is not of Flesh and Blood?–most likely–YES. The chaos in our World is an engineered plan. The All Seeing Eye is quickly settling into the top of the Pyramid. Since we know everything by it’s fruits–we know from where this evil originates. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing.

By: Old Paint

Old Paint — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:59:44 +0000

Well Comrade Ryan, Terry Melanson has straightened you out on most things, and I can add no more to that discussion on the offensiveness of erecting statues to mass murderers. But your casual assumption that “right wingers hate art” is just too egregious to let stand. I am both a libertarian type, which you probably consider right wing, and an artist myself. Let me assure you that those two things are not mutually exclusive. What’s really astounding about so called “Right Wing Art” is that it is usually traditionally representational, and that one can actually identify what is being portrayed. No canvases painted in single solid tones with a few squiggles, claiming to contain all universal truths, up to and including the nature of God and the secrets of the universe. Just paintings of things that look like the thing! What a concept! Although it is completely beneath the dignity of Left Wing Art, who would bother with such trifles? Paintings of people that look like people, in fact that might actually look like a particular person, not a grotesque, indisciplined parody of the person. Now this might seem like a small thing to you, but I assure you, it is not. Left Wing Art threw the baby of traditional skills out with the bathwater in the mid 20th century. There’s not a whole lot of Lefties that can paint the object in front of their faces, although they like to pretend that they could if they wanted to, but it’s an unworthy goal and beneath people of their profundity. That’s what so funny about a guy in a liberal and free thinking burg in Washington bringing back a communist commissioned sculpture to champion “pure art.” Because the communists understood the propoganda power that lies in traditional representational art, they kept those skills alive in their schools. The Chinese still do and their schools produce superb artists while ours turn out posturing incompetents. In the West, the Art Establishment was captured by a group that dispensed with teahing classical traditions and skills in the name of progress and free thinking. The result is that your community that “built itself up around artistic principles” is probably chock full of Left Wing artists who have NONE of the traditional skills required to represent Comrade Lenin, or anyone else for that matter, in a recognizeable and aesthetically graceful way. Hence, they have to scavenge fallen communist regime junkyards for pieces of competent realism. By the way, there’s a small network of ateliers in America, trying to resurrect traditional Art education, similar to what was to be had in the great 19th c studios of Paris. They’re staffed mostly by people who trained with someone, who trained with someone, who trained with someone, who trained with Jean Leon Gerome in Paris. And they’re a bunch of art hating Right Wingers, of course.

By: 3rd worlder

3rd worlder — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:18:09 +0000

This is what your local government has in mind when they refer to everything without borders as a community. Beware.

By: Mister Jimmy

Mister Jimmy — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:13:11 +0000

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that there is in fact a fairly large statue/memorial to Hitler which was put up in I believe Minnesota by a onetime Nazi soldier who came to this country after WWII and acquired some land. After he got older, he erected this monumnet on his land and it stirred a bit of controversy. I wish I had more concrete facts, but I think he has to date fought off all efforts to make him take it down.

By: Terry Melanson

Terry Melanson — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:39:12 +0000

Comrade Ryan, you are forgetting that the statue is of a communist dictator; thus there is no need to mock “right wingers” by portraying them as equating art with godless communism. If that statue had been erected during the cold war, it would probably have been seen as treasonous. What’s next? Pol Pot? Stalin? Hitler? Here’s the facts you conveniently ignore:

When the statue was first raised in Fremont, many Russian émigrés protested the move, arguing that Lenin represented the system that had persecuted and killed millions of their people. But the “tolerant” segment of the Fremont community ultimately won out. Lenin stayed. The accepted interpretation, bestowed with much highbrow sophistication, was that the statue wasn’t about communism, but about pure art, devoid of political meaning. In other words, the sculpture was simply a profound reminder of how art transcends and outlives politics. Thus, the statue even became somewhat of a joke. Tourists would have their photographs taken standing beside it, as a souvenir of their vacation.

Russian émigrés everywhere have not been amused. I know, I am a Russian émigré myself. I left the Soviet Union at the age of five with my family. While I was lucky enough to be spared personal persecution, millions of my people, including my family and relatives, did not receive this luxury. Knowing that Lenin founded a regime that wiped out some 60 million of my countrymen for the idea of class equality does not send tingles up my spine, nor does the knowledge that the figure of Lenin now stands prominently at an intersection in Fremont.