I have a feeling you would of got along pretty well in those days.

> p.s. I am being completely serious in regard to
> the masonic membership of late night tv hosts

I know. And that’s why you will never be taken seriously by such ridiculous, ludicrous methodology. The Masons aren’t afraid of you. The ignorant zealots among them may still spew vitriol at your latest antics, sure. But mostly they are laughing.

Seriously, Rationally, and Sensibly Yours

Obscurely Yours,

p.s. I am being completely serious in regard to the masonic membership of late night tv hosts, a venue which Freemason politicians use frequently to raise their profiles.

The cut sign is a more reliable ‘tell’. I wouldn’t put too much into Terry’s say-so given thes choice of dust jacket author photo for the Obscurantists.

It’s all a big show that they are not one big cosmopolitan family reared and steered by the same captain and ship.

Irregular Schmegular.

Despite this, however, I think it is still important to remember that when the modern Catholic school system began, it wasn’t as if there were two school systems called “Secular” and “Catholic”, but rather, what we now think of as the (secular) public school system, was essentially the non-denominational Protestant school system. At least this was the case in Ontario, where I live and where the numbers of Protestants and Catholics are almost equal. In fact, as recently as the late 1980’s the public school I attended in Ottawa still started the day with the Lord’s Prayer (aka “The Our Father”), which, though it doesn’t specifically mention Christ, is a uniquely Christian prayer. As the last several decades saw an ever increasing secularization of the public school system, I think we have, more and more, come to think of state funded education in terms of secular/catholic, hence many people see this as unfair.

Truth be told, however, many Catholic schools are now also hot-beds of moral-relativism, new age non-sense, eco-religion and all the other crap that infests the public system. What is perhaps even more ironic is that many non-Catholics attend Catholic schools on the grounds that they are supposedly more disciplined. Not having attended a Catholic school since I was 9 I can’t comment either way. (Incidentally, I didn’t leave Catholic school cause I had a problem with it’s teachings, rather, when my family moved to Ottawa, we discovered schools in the municipal Catholic board did half the day in French and half the day in English, and since I couldn’t speak French and since the nearest school was a public one, I attended it instead.)

Though I also haven’t read “Behind the Lodge Door” I recall once seeing a tv interview with the author. It might have been linked through Jay’s old site, I can’t recall for sure.

“New Age” was the official publication of the Scottish Rite, right? It’s funny that, though they require members to believe in a higher power that they are so rabidly secular in their mission. My maternal grandfather, who died nearly a decade before I was born, was a Freemason, as was his father. Amongst their respective possessions, we have a book that is the minutes of a Masonic meeting held in Niagara Falls, in the early 1920’s between representatives of British, Canadian and American Freemasonry. I still haven’t read the whole thing and it’s been a few years since I looked at it but as I recall, part of the discussion involved the Masons continuing to reject French Grand Orient for their removal of theism as a prerequisite to membership. The minutes made frequent reference to Christ, though I suppose this was a function meant for all levels of Masons who where then, mostly Protestant Christians. Also this was still before the influence of Manly P. Hall.I wonder if there is any collusion between French Grand Orient and “normal” Masonry, when it comes to secularization projects. Or do they still disagree too much to get together on this issue?

Besides latenight handshakes, FW has posted videos that he claims reveal masonic signs used by Letterman and Leno et al. For an overview of both signs and handshakes, see here:
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/handshakes.htm

Again, people fuss with their clothes and use their hands constantly while talking. If I videotaped FW, or anyone for that matter, similar gestures will be discerned.

Of course in the British Commonwealth the burn rate has been slower but no less deadly for traditional values under the disintegrating Anglican Communion official head of Church and State their Masonic Magesties.

Nowadays most of the masonic mind-melt action is through the media and entertainment industries. My analysis indicates all but one of the current crop of late night hosts are active and belligerant Freemasons, and I am not even completely certain of the one who doesn’t flaunt it.

Bro.’s Warner Bro.’s…

Just because a religion isn’t organized, doesn’t mean it isn’t a religion. A religion is one’s core convictions about the fundamental nature of reality. The core conviction that defines contemporary atheism is the non-existence of metaphysical realities and or entities, and consequently the idea that only the sensible universe constitutes the entirety of existence. This is every bit as much a faith based assertion about reality as reincarnation, the resurrection, or anything else.

As subcategories of Atheism, Marxism and Secular Humanism share the, above mentioned, key contention of the atheist religion. In an attempt to slander Christianity, critics have transformed the word “dogma” into a purely pejorative term. But a dogma, really, only means an opinion or belief that defines you as a believer in a given system. As such Marxism and Secular Humanism are, like all belief systems, replete with dogmas. In the case of the former it’s, dialectic materialism, class struggle, etc. In the case of the later it’s, scientific positivism, evolutionary ethics, etc. There’s no crime in having a dogma. In fact it’s unavoidable. Even agnosticism is a belief of sorts as it operates on the opinion (or dogma) that the existence or non-existence of a spiritual realm is unknowable. As the Canadian rock group Rush observed in their song “Free Will” “You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

Admittedly, I was being a little pejorative myself here in calling these guys Marxist but it isn’t an entirely unfounded connection to make. See this for example:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=613

Anyway, I’ve gotta curtail my bad habit of writing way too much in these posts, so that’s all from me for now.

>just another religion<

Which one, and where’s the Dogma?
Marxism has deffinatly nothing to do with it.