I am just learning about communitarianism for a research project and have been purusing a number of sources and articles. I came across this one. I got as far as “Fareed Zakaria (Bildergerg, tri-lateral commission, CFR)” and had to stop. Then I looked at my address bar and saw… “conspiracyarchive.com”. Ooops! My mistake!

Coo coo, the lot of you!

“a warning popped up that the site was hacking into my pc. Did you have that problem while you were there?”

No, it did not happen for me, nor has it ever before - anywhere. I do know, however, that it is a classic symptom of a virus or a trojan horse or spyware of some sort. From whence did this “warning” originate? Was it a simple Javascript popup (in its own window) that was initiated by the browser itself, or did it occur through the operating system? I seem to remember you writing before that you have javascript disabled; if that is the case, then it would be the latter: the “popup” was instantiated from within your operating system. This is indeed an infection of some kind, and if standard virus and spyware scans fail to find a problem - and the annoyance still occurs - then reformatting and re-installing may be the only solution.

Re: Jefferson:

Though he didn’t say “secret societies” specifically, he was talking about “bodies whose organization is unknown to the Constitution.” So, in a sense, he was alluding to “secret societies.” He did support Weishaupt’s efforts, for instance, and could see clearly why the Illuminati would have been necessary in a despotic, obscurantist environment that was Bavaria at the time. I agree with him on that: the Illuminati had no choice but to operate in the shadows. But he didn’t spend enough time analyzing the socialist anarcho-politico revolutionary doctrine of Weishaupt. If he did, he wouldn’t have been so eager to support such things as primitivist egalitarianism, and disdain for private property; he would have realized, also, that Weishaupt, especially, was a totalitarian and only used the concepts of virtue, equality and liberty as a ruse.

The last part of the sentence which quoted above, is also interesting.

By calling it communism, the left can laugh at the “stupid right” and the right assumes they already know everything they need to know about it, which means neither side will look at communitarian laws and programs that are rapidly changing our republic into a global communitarian regional government.

Etzioni knows how quietly effective it remains if people don’t know exactly what communitarianism is, and how powerless we are against it if we can’t see how it incorporates BOTH capitalism and communism. It is half communism and half capitalism, and sometimes more one than the other…very slippery theory. He also claims it protects individual rights because it only eliminates some of them.

I took the exit link to the Jerusalem Post, read the first couple lines and a warning popped up that the site was hacking into my pc. Did you have that problem while you were there?

Thanks for the respectful acknowledgement of my research too, I appreciate that a lot, it’s very rare.

“As revolutionary instruments (when nothing but revolution will cure the evils of the State) [secret societies] are necessary and indispensable, and the right to use them is inalienable by the people.” –Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1803. FE 8:256