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		<title>By: Theresa Crater</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-34737</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa Crater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm writing a mystery novel about Zinzendorf and the Moravian Church's connections to the mystery traditions. I'll let you know when it's published. I've had a blast researching this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing a mystery novel about Zinzendorf and the Moravian Church&#8217;s connections to the mystery traditions. I&#8217;ll let you know when it&#8217;s published. I&#8217;ve had a blast researching this.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Yoder</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-18498</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Yoder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  Will all due respect to Bach's claims, I am an Elder in the Sabbatarian tradition of the Ephrata Cloister (through my membership of the Snow Hill daughter community of Ephrata).  I have researched our community's archives and have translated Beissel's pivotal 67th sermon (see "Light Dawning," by Russell Yoder, M. Div. published by the JD Holmes Group).  Judge for yourself with an open mind, the clear similarities between Chemical Wedding and Beissel's Allegory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  Will all due respect to Bach&#8217;s claims, I am an Elder in the Sabbatarian tradition of the Ephrata Cloister (through my membership of the Snow Hill daughter community of Ephrata).  I have researched our community&#8217;s archives and have translated Beissel&#8217;s pivotal 67th sermon (see &#8220;Light Dawning,&#8221; by Russell Yoder, M. Div. published by the JD Holmes Group).  Judge for yourself with an open mind, the clear similarities between Chemical Wedding and Beissel&#8217;s Allegory.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jackman</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-18361</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 03:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The excessively free use of the term "Rosicrucian" for practically any secret practice is not only inaccurate but intentionally controversial and muddies any discussion rather than adding clarity.  Defining an activity as Rosicrucian when the people involved did not identify themselves in that way is simply inaccurate, I'm not "stretching" anything.

From “The Alchemy of the Voice at Ephrata Cloister“ you refered to:

"Bach argues that the "significant differences between [The Chemical Wedding] and Beissel's sermon outweigh the likenesses. The dissimilarities argue against any suggestion that Beissel was writing an explicitly Rosicrucian allegory."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The excessively free use of the term &#8220;Rosicrucian&#8221; for practically any secret practice is not only inaccurate but intentionally controversial and muddies any discussion rather than adding clarity.  Defining an activity as Rosicrucian when the people involved did not identify themselves in that way is simply inaccurate, I&#8217;m not &#8220;stretching&#8221; anything.</p>
<p>From “The Alchemy of the Voice at Ephrata Cloister“ you refered to:</p>
<p>&#8220;Bach argues that the &#8220;significant differences between [The Chemical Wedding] and Beissel&#8217;s sermon outweigh the likenesses. The dissimilarities argue against any suggestion that Beissel was writing an explicitly Rosicrucian allegory.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Melanson</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-17064</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Melanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schuchard does jump to conclusions a lot, that I will give you. You may have experience in Moravian archives but are you equally as familiarized with Sabbatean and Frankist thought, antinomianism in millenarian sects, Lurianic Kabbalah, Boehmist theosophic mysticism, and the entire millieu of Masonic and occult secret societies during the 18th Century? This is the scope of Schuchard's efforts.

Also, what do YOU define as "Roscicrucian practices"? I'd say you're stretching a bit here too. "Rosicrucianism" is as eclectic as it comes. In short, it is an amalgamation of neo-platonism, mysticism, Paracelcian alchemy, hermetic utopianism, philosophy, kabbalah and christian theosophy.

And see also:
"&lt;a href="http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Alchemy.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Alchemy of the Voice at Ephrata Cloister&lt;/a&gt;"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schuchard does jump to conclusions a lot, that I will give you. You may have experience in Moravian archives but are you equally as familiarized with Sabbatean and Frankist thought, antinomianism in millenarian sects, Lurianic Kabbalah, Boehmist theosophic mysticism, and the entire millieu of Masonic and occult secret societies during the 18th Century? This is the scope of Schuchard&#8217;s efforts.</p>
<p>Also, what do YOU define as &#8220;Roscicrucian practices&#8221;? I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re stretching a bit here too. &#8220;Rosicrucianism&#8221; is as eclectic as it comes. In short, it is an amalgamation of neo-platonism, mysticism, Paracelcian alchemy, hermetic utopianism, philosophy, kabbalah and christian theosophy.</p>
<p>And see also:<br />
&#8220;<a href="http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/Alchemy.html" rel="nofollow">The Alchemy of the Voice at Ephrata Cloister</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: John Jackman</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-16963</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These sensationalistic claims about Zinzendorf and the Moravians are simply untrue.  The Moravian Church is one of the most heavily documented in history, records still exist of nearly every day of missionary activity.  I have personally done research in the archives in Bethlehem, PA, Herrnhut Germany and Winston-Salem NC.  Suchard's book (which I have) is interesting but much of her theory is based on William Blake's perception of people who mostly died before he was born.  These are not "facts."  I know from primary research that many of her statements about Rosicrucians are simply untrue, based on filling in blanks with no evidence.  There is NO evidence that the Ephrata cloister had Rocicrucian practices, and Zinzendorf actually did not have a good relationship with Beisel.

The Moravians have done tremendous work throughout the world for over 500 years, it is a shame to make such baseless claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These sensationalistic claims about Zinzendorf and the Moravians are simply untrue.  The Moravian Church is one of the most heavily documented in history, records still exist of nearly every day of missionary activity.  I have personally done research in the archives in Bethlehem, PA, Herrnhut Germany and Winston-Salem NC.  Suchard&#8217;s book (which I have) is interesting but much of her theory is based on William Blake&#8217;s perception of people who mostly died before he was born.  These are not &#8220;facts.&#8221;  I know from primary research that many of her statements about Rosicrucians are simply untrue, based on filling in blanks with no evidence.  There is NO evidence that the Ephrata cloister had Rocicrucian practices, and Zinzendorf actually did not have a good relationship with Beisel.</p>
<p>The Moravians have done tremendous work throughout the world for over 500 years, it is a shame to make such baseless claims.</p>
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		<title>By: l0k372</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-12665</link>
		<dc:creator>l0k372</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today I saw a comment left on you tube (i forget the video) stating that the (inter)net was prophesied in the Bible. Upon some googling after information regarding this statement I came across this: The Net

Thu May 4, 2006   (3:39 am)

Here are some old and new thoughts I have put together on the Internet in prophesy.

"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:" (Matthew 13:47)
Here the kingdom of heaven is like a net. Other places we are told it is like a "good seed," a "mustard seed," "leaven," "a treasure hid in a field," "a business man" ("merchant"), a "king" and "ten virgins."
 
a "good seed," a "mustard seed," "leaven," "a treasure hid in a field," I had never heard of The Mystical Kabbalistic-Rosicrucian-Gnostic Order of the Mustard Seed before and came across the page purely by chance...well, I have Chris White and Michael Tsarion to thank but it's been surprising none the less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I saw a comment left on you tube (i forget the video) stating that the (inter)net was prophesied in the Bible. Upon some googling after information regarding this statement I came across this: The Net</p>
<p>Thu May 4, 2006   (3:39 am)</p>
<p>Here are some old and new thoughts I have put together on the Internet in prophesy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:&#8221; (Matthew 13:47)<br />
Here the kingdom of heaven is like a net. Other places we are told it is like a &#8220;good seed,&#8221; a &#8220;mustard seed,&#8221; &#8220;leaven,&#8221; &#8220;a treasure hid in a field,&#8221; &#8220;a business man&#8221; (&#8221;merchant&#8221;), a &#8220;king&#8221; and &#8220;ten virgins.&#8221;</p>
<p>a &#8220;good seed,&#8221; a &#8220;mustard seed,&#8221; &#8220;leaven,&#8221; &#8220;a treasure hid in a field,&#8221; I had never heard of The Mystical Kabbalistic-Rosicrucian-Gnostic Order of the Mustard Seed before and came across the page purely by chance&#8230;well, I have Chris White and Michael Tsarion to thank but it&#8217;s been surprising none the less.</p>
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		<title>By: orthodox</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-9205</link>
		<dc:creator>orthodox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, really. All above told the truth. We can communicate on this theme. Here or in PM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, really. All above told the truth. We can communicate on this theme. Here or in PM.</p>
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		<title>By: MainSourceNo1</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-9045</link>
		<dc:creator>MainSourceNo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just reading Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P Hall and i found some relevant information.

"There  is no greater miracle in the growing and multiplication of gold by the alchemist than in a tiny mustard seed producing a bush many thousands of times the size of the seed.  If a mustard seed produces a hundred thousand times its own size and weight when planted in an etirely different substance (the earth), why should not the seed of gold be multiplied a hundred thousand times by art when that seed is planted in its earth (the base metals) and nourished artificially by the secret process of alchemy?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reading Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P Hall and i found some relevant information.</p>
<p>&#8220;There  is no greater miracle in the growing and multiplication of gold by the alchemist than in a tiny mustard seed producing a bush many thousands of times the size of the seed.  If a mustard seed produces a hundred thousand times its own size and weight when planted in an etirely different substance (the earth), why should not the seed of gold be multiplied a hundred thousand times by art when that seed is planted in its earth (the base metals) and nourished artificially by the secret process of alchemy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-4936</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, mustard is also good on hot dogs and hamburgers. Interesting fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, mustard is also good on hot dogs and hamburgers. Interesting fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Dunn</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-4911</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was interested in the idea of the mustard seed as a symbol.  I learned that the sign of a member of Mensa is a mustard seed.  Mensa members who were interested in broadcasting the fact wore a hatpin type lapel pin with a yellow head.  I cannot see any connection here but it is interesting.  I wonder if anyone else sees one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested in the idea of the mustard seed as a symbol.  I learned that the sign of a member of Mensa is a mustard seed.  Mensa members who were interested in broadcasting the fact wore a hatpin type lapel pin with a yellow head.  I cannot see any connection here but it is interesting.  I wonder if anyone else sees one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Dyer</title>
		<link>http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1671#comment-4910</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious indeed!  About 2 months ago I was driving on a lonely country road near my home and in the middle of the road, kid you not, was book with the cover torn off.  I picked it up, and it was a Swedenborgian doctrinal manual.  Needless to say, in Tennessee there aren't a lot of Swedenborgian "churches." I knew this couldn't be mere coincidence and that for sure in the next few weeks something related to this cult would pop up.  Here it is. Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious indeed!  About 2 months ago I was driving on a lonely country road near my home and in the middle of the road, kid you not, was book with the cover torn off.  I picked it up, and it was a Swedenborgian doctrinal manual.  Needless to say, in Tennessee there aren&#8217;t a lot of Swedenborgian &#8220;churches.&#8221; I knew this couldn&#8217;t be mere coincidence and that for sure in the next few weeks something related to this cult would pop up.  Here it is. Lol.</p>
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