Comments on: Evidence suggests CIA funded experiments at state hospital http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254 Anti-Theory Conspiracy Thu, 23 May 2013 14:48:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: One-Track http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-36405 One-Track Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:11:02 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-36405 Looking back on my life it is clear that I have been a test subject. I cannot say what agency or program I am under but many peoples stories of MK ring true for me. Symbols such as pinecones (pinecomb), monarch butterflies, triangles, artichokes, etc, etc. have a powerful but not fully understood effect on my psyche. Early childhood abuse (sexual and psychological), possible childhood drug administration, symbolism and key words... it all kind of adds up. I found the above thread particularly interesting, as it creates another connection for me (UCLA), in my search for the truth. Long story short, I went to school for Landscape Architecture at CSU (Colorado State), a program I feel in hind-site is really a human experiment. The spring prior to graduation I was given a prescription for Adderall (mixed amphetamine salts) to treat depression related to ADD. Subsequently I was hired by what I was lead to believe was one of the top landscape architecture firms in the country, The SWA Group, in Laguna Beach California, a small isolated community in Southern California. Without going into too much detail, (I could write a book on the experience) I was given mind bending projects (problems) to work on, often working 16+ hour days, and several times working 24-36 hours straight. I won't go into specifics about experiences during this time, but after 4 months of this abuse I was immediately discharged with no reason given other than "it's nothing personal". Following this experience I worked at The Laguna Nursery (Rueben Flores) where further psychological abuse (daily yelling/dressing down and illogical tasks/instructions) and symbol implantation took place. Some time later I was invited to UCLA to attend a lecture by Adriaan Geuze of West 8 Urban Design. His lecture was odd. It seemed to be more about sex than about landscape architecture... it felt somehow personal and there were a number of members of the audience who seemed to be gauging my response to these "off" statements. The experience left me in a trance like state, dissociated, confused... vulnerable. Without going into further detail, there were a number of "players" who interacted with me that evening in a way that felt more like trickery or testing than normal human interaction. It was a surreal experience, no doubt by design. In hindsight, I believe that this 3 year experience (still ongoing) was some kind of experiment (CIA MK Ultra or other similar program). I also believe that The SWA Group, CSU and UC Irvine are involved in human experimentation. I have never experienced evil like I have been introduced to through Landscape Architecture. If any of you are still active on this thread please lend any insights you might have. Thank You. Looking back on my life it is clear that I have been a test subject. I cannot say what agency or program I am under but many peoples stories of MK ring true for me. Symbols such as pinecones (pinecomb), monarch butterflies, triangles, artichokes, etc, etc. have a powerful but not fully understood effect on my psyche. Early childhood abuse (sexual and psychological), possible childhood drug administration, symbolism and key words… it all kind of adds up.

I found the above thread particularly interesting, as it creates another connection for me (UCLA), in my search for the truth. Long story short, I went to school for Landscape Architecture at CSU (Colorado State), a program I feel in hind-site is really a human experiment. The spring prior to graduation I was given a prescription for Adderall (mixed amphetamine salts) to treat depression related to ADD. Subsequently I was hired by what I was lead to believe was one of the top landscape architecture firms in the country, The SWA Group, in Laguna Beach California, a small isolated community in Southern California. Without going into too much detail, (I could write a book on the experience) I was given mind bending projects (problems) to work on, often working 16+ hour days, and several times working 24-36 hours straight. I won’t go into specifics about experiences during this time, but after 4 months of this abuse I was immediately discharged with no reason given other than “it’s nothing personal”.
Following this experience I worked at The Laguna Nursery (Rueben Flores) where further psychological abuse (daily yelling/dressing down and illogical tasks/instructions) and symbol implantation took place.
Some time later I was invited to UCLA to attend a lecture by Adriaan Geuze of West 8 Urban Design. His lecture was odd. It seemed to be more about sex than about landscape architecture… it felt somehow personal and there were a number of members of the audience who seemed to be gauging my response to these “off” statements. The experience left me in a trance like state, dissociated, confused… vulnerable. Without going into further detail, there were a number of “players” who interacted with me that evening in a way that felt more like trickery or testing than normal human interaction. It was a surreal experience, no doubt by design.
In hindsight, I believe that this 3 year experience (still ongoing) was some kind of experiment (CIA MK Ultra or other similar program). I also believe that The SWA Group, CSU and UC Irvine are involved in human experimentation. I have never experienced evil like I have been introduced to through Landscape Architecture.
If any of you are still active on this thread please lend any insights you might have. Thank You.

]]> By: MK Survivor http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-24217 MK Survivor Mon, 10 Oct 2011 12:00:50 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-24217 Trust, know one? I too would appreciate being contacted. A massive cover up is in fulling....I won't quit fighting till I'm dead..... Thank you. 208 841 2591. Feinberg must be removed from office and NPI fully exposed in the global light. God sides w the Victims....always. 777 Trust, know one?

I too would appreciate being contacted. A massive cover up is in fulling….I won’t quit fighting till I’m
dead….. Thank you. 208 841 2591. Feinberg must be removed from office and NPI fully exposed in the global light. God sides w the Victims….always. 777

]]> By: Robert http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-13235 Robert Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:38:24 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-13235 Trust no one I would like that info if possible, my phone # is 805 455-9073 Trust no one

I would like that info if possible, my phone # is 805 455-9073

]]> By: Trust no one http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-12449 Trust no one Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:58:26 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-12449 UCLA and MK ultra go way back. If what you say is true then this was the CIA. I know someone in the inside that could help you find the truth. I don't want to put her name out in the open but please respond if you want to find out what happened and I can get you her email and phone number. She will have access to your file and know the exact names of the people that did this to you. Then you could contact a lawyer and see what your options are. Do not picket, they will only write you off as a crazy. UCLA and MK ultra go way back. If what you say is true then this was the CIA. I know someone in the inside that could help you find the truth. I don’t want to put her name out in the open but please respond if you want to find out what happened and I can get you her email and phone number. She will have access to your file and know the exact names of the people that did this to you. Then you could contact a lawyer and see what your options are. Do not picket, they will only write you off as a crazy.

]]> By: Jim http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-12147 Jim Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:08:14 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-12147 Robert Sorry to hear what happened. That sounds like a really horrible experience. MKULTRA really scares me. It is amazing that this happened in Los Angeles. Robert

Sorry to hear what happened. That sounds like a really horrible experience. MKULTRA really scares me. It is amazing that this happened in Los Angeles.

]]> By: Robert http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-12098 Robert Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:37:46 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-12098 I had a friend Mark Wagner, which he had a job at U.C.L.A. washing down the lab at night in 1975. He got this job as his mother worked there. He told me they pay money to test something called bio feedback, new at the time. I being 18 years old signed up for it. It was at the neuropsychiatric institute at U.C.L.A. I went for my first session and I had a reaction to the glue that the electrodes were stuck to me. So I could not proceed. Some time later Mark said they had another experiment that paid even more, 100.00 dollars to test a cold virus. I was told that they would give me a dead cold virus and I would get a little sniffle and then recover all in about an hour. I went to my appointment where I was put in a hospital bed; an I.V. was put in my arm and supposedly EEG electrodes were put on my head. The doctor brought several other people into watch. I was administered something in the I.V. I was waiting for it to give me the sniffles, when it felt like a grenade went off in my head. I have never felt more pain in my entire life. I blacked out from the pain. I have been in bad auto accidents and I have fallen 50 ft. on to rocks. These were nothing in comparison. When I awoke I couldn’t help but notice everyone that had witnessed what had happened were smirking or smiling, one woman was almost laughing. I asked what had happened. I was told matter of fact, I had a severer reaction. I had learned of MK ultra through reading and told a friend of what had happened to me in Bruin territory. He casually told me to goggle it. I almost shit my pants when I googled U.C.L.A MK ultra. I now suspect I was given shock treatment and god or they no what else. I have a great distrust in the medical profession since this happened and even more now that I have discovered the truth. I have considered a lawsuit. I may picket there entrance with my story in the hopes they try to sue me for liable. I had a friend Mark Wagner, which he had a job at U.C.L.A. washing down the lab at night in 1975. He got this job as his mother worked there. He told me they pay money to test something called bio feedback, new at the time. I being 18 years old signed up for it. It was at the neuropsychiatric institute at U.C.L.A. I went for my first session and I had a reaction to the glue that the electrodes were stuck to me. So I could not proceed. Some time later Mark said they had another experiment that paid even more, 100.00 dollars to test a cold virus. I was told that they would give me a dead cold virus and I would get a little sniffle and then recover all in about an hour. I went to my appointment where I was put in a hospital bed; an I.V. was put in my arm and supposedly EEG electrodes were put on my head. The doctor brought several other people into watch. I was administered something in the I.V. I was waiting for it to give me the sniffles, when it felt like a grenade went off in my head. I have never felt more pain in my entire life. I blacked out from the pain. I have been in bad auto accidents and I have fallen 50 ft. on to rocks. These were nothing in comparison. When I awoke I couldn’t help but notice everyone that had witnessed what had happened were smirking or smiling, one woman was almost laughing. I asked what had happened. I was told matter of fact, I had a severer reaction.
I had learned of MK ultra through reading and told a friend of what had happened to me in Bruin territory. He casually told me to goggle it. I almost shit my pants when I googled U.C.L.A MK ultra. I now suspect I was given shock treatment and god or they no what else. I have a great distrust in the medical profession since this happened and even more now that I have discovered the truth. I have considered a lawsuit. I may picket there entrance with my story in the hopes they try to sue me for liable.

]]> By: reality illusion http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-11330 reality illusion Fri, 11 Dec 2009 03:36:27 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-11330 I like to clap my hands and sing happy songs. I like to clap my hands and sing happy songs.

]]> By: Georgia Kamvosulis http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-8039 Georgia Kamvosulis Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:33:47 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-8039 If we don’t stand up in unison and exercise our right to protest and free speech now more than ever before, while pointing out that the real terrorists are those who would seek to destroy the freedoms enshrined in the Bill of Rights, then we may find ourselves doing our protesting behind the barbed wires and the concrete blocks of an internment camp. The hour is late, the clock stands at one minute to midnight, and the federal government, through all the examples documented above, is on the verge of implementing nothing less than a total environmental, financial and societal dictatorship and killing what once was the United States of America. Almost identical programs of total enslavement are also being pushed through in almost every other major western country at the same time. If we don’t stop obsessing about the minutia of life and actually concentrate on the imminent destruction of the very principles of our livelihoods, the bedrock freedoms that allow us to operate in relative comfort on a daily basis and be reasonably secure in our own homes, being able to pay our bills, put food on the table, earn money, and air our grievances when government threatens to impinge on those basic freedoms, then there will be nothing left but a rotten hollow carcass and a memory of what America once strived to be – land of the free, home of the brave – not land of the thief, home of the slave. If we don’t stand up in unison and exercise our right to protest and free speech now more than ever before, while pointing out that the real terrorists are those who would seek to destroy the freedoms enshrined in the Bill of Rights, then we may find ourselves doing our protesting behind the barbed wires and the concrete blocks of an internment camp.

The hour is late, the clock stands at one minute to midnight, and the federal government, through all the examples documented above, is on the verge of implementing nothing less than a total environmental, financial and societal dictatorship and killing what once was the United States of America.

Almost identical programs of total enslavement are also being pushed through in almost every other major western country at the same time.

If we don’t stop obsessing about the minutia of life and actually concentrate on the imminent destruction of the very principles of our livelihoods, the bedrock freedoms that allow us to operate in relative comfort on a daily basis and be reasonably secure in our own homes, being able to pay our bills, put food on the table, earn money, and air our grievances when government threatens to impinge on those basic freedoms, then there will be nothing left but a rotten hollow carcass and a memory of what America once strived to be – land of the free, home of the brave – not land of the thief, home of the slave.

]]> By: Terry Melanson http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-5032 Terry Melanson Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:04:39 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-5032 @Nathan Cutietta Why have you come here? How did you even know of this page? You are obviously monitoring something. What is it? @Nathan Cutietta

Why have you come here? How did you even know of this page? You are obviously monitoring something. What is it?

]]> By: Nathan Cutietta http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-5031 Nathan Cutietta Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:54:21 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-5031 Mari and Carole both work for the UCLA Medical school which is why you can't find their names on the UCLA mainpage. Here is a link to their medical school website: www.psychiatry.ucla.edu/vcf/ http://www.semel.ucla.edu/global/search.php?cx=011342787611922187720%3Ayqqzffmvwcg&cof=F Their just normal people who don't work for the CIA or MKULTRA. I know Mari personally and she didn't grow up in Nevada. I have met grade school friends of hers from Beverly Hills. Please stop blogging about nothing. Mari and Carole both work for the UCLA Medical school which is why you can’t find their names on the UCLA mainpage.
Here is a link to their medical school website: http://www.psychiatry.ucla.edu/vcf/
http://www.semel.ucla.edu/global/search.php?cx=011342787611922187720%3Ayqqzffmvwcg&cof=F

Their just normal people who don’t work for the CIA or MKULTRA. I know Mari personally and she didn’t grow up in Nevada. I have met grade school friends of hers from Beverly Hills. Please stop blogging about nothing.

]]> By: Terry Melanson http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-5000 Terry Melanson Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:46:38 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-5000 The images posted are pretty poor quality, but I looked in his <a href="http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/?S=D" rel="nofollow">index path</a> where there's a 35.7 mb pdf file. I downloaded it and the scans appear to be of better quality. Also, since it is a pdf, it should be possible to do a OCR text recognition on the entire document in order to facilitate a word search. The images posted are pretty poor quality, but I looked in his index path where there’s a 35.7 mb pdf file. I downloaded it and the scans appear to be of better quality. Also, since it is a pdf, it should be possible to do a OCR text recognition on the entire document in order to facilitate a word search.

]]> By: Terry Melanson http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4999 Terry Melanson Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:35:12 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4999 Thanks. I'll look through them. Thanks. I’ll look through them.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4998 Bruce Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:06:34 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4998 Terry Get off your ass and do some real research. Just kidding. It's a lot of reading but so worth it. I did the same thing Rebecca did and printed it out to read. It took me 6 months to read, but then again I always hated school. Terry

Get off your ass and do some real research. Just kidding. It’s a lot of reading but so worth it. I did the same thing Rebecca did and printed it out to read. It took me 6 months to read, but then again I always hated school.

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4997 Rebecca Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:56:08 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4997 Terry Try this link. http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm The reason you can't google it is due to the fact that the documents are still just scans and not words that google can access. MK-ULTRA stuff is not that easy to find. I have seen the document that Bruce is referring to and it does say C. Lieberman. There are hundreds of pages of declassified MK-ULTRA reports and it will take you a few days to get through it. I printed all 300+ pages out and read it like a book. It is great reading but took me a couple of weeks to read. There are lots of sites that have the documents like the one listed above. I think it is amazing how little comes up when one googles MKULTRA. There are 1000's of sites about area 51, roswell.... but very few on a real proven government cover up. Also PINECOMB was just one of many, many sub projects that MKULTRA ran. The only real interesting thing about Project PINECOMB is that these people are still alive and well. Most of the people involved with MK-ULTRA are long since gone. For a while there was a Wikipedia page about PINECOMB with a photo of the page in question but anyone can change wikipedia and someone did. My guess is that Carole changed it. I am sure she wants to live a normal life and leave all of this nonsense behind her. The rumor is that she is the head of MK-ULTRA today but MKULTRA really does not exist. She is more like the head of the high school reunion of your class. So the Westchester high class of 1968 does not really exist today. There might be someone who puts together a party but the class will never be what it once was. Terry

Try this link.
http://www.michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

The reason you can’t google it is due to the fact that the documents are still just scans and not words that google can access. MK-ULTRA stuff is not that easy to find. I have seen the document that Bruce is referring to and it does say C. Lieberman. There are hundreds of pages of declassified MK-ULTRA reports and it will take you a few days to get through it. I printed all 300+ pages out and read it like a book. It is great reading but took me a couple of weeks to read. There are lots of sites that have the documents like the one listed above. I think it is amazing how little comes up when one googles MKULTRA. There are 1000’s of sites about area 51, roswell…. but very few on a real proven government cover up. Also PINECOMB was just one of many, many sub projects that MKULTRA ran. The only real interesting thing about Project PINECOMB is that these people are still alive and well. Most of the people involved with MK-ULTRA are long since gone. For a while there was a Wikipedia page about PINECOMB with a photo of the page in question but anyone can change wikipedia and someone did. My guess is that Carole changed it. I am sure she wants to live a normal life and leave all of this nonsense behind her. The rumor is that she is the head of MK-ULTRA today but MKULTRA really does not exist. She is more like the head of the high school reunion of your class. So the Westchester high class of 1968 does not really exist today. There might be someone who puts together a party but the class will never be what it once was.

]]> By: Terry Melanson http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4996 Terry Melanson Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:43:33 +0000 http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Blog/?p=1254#comment-4996 Regarding no results on searches, here's some examples: <em><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=s6I&q=%22C.+Lieberman%22+pinecomb&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">"C. Lieberman" +pinecomb</a></em>: nada <em><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=kTy&q=%22C.+Lieberman%22+mkultra&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">"C. Lieberman" +mkultra</a></em>: nada <em><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=H1I&q=PINECOMB+Lieberman&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">PINECOMB +Lieberman</a></em>: <a href="http://conley2112.wordpress.com/2009/02/08/3/" rel="nofollow">one result</a> to a blog post that does not give its source and is therefore hearsay (and no different, really, from the comments on this blog post). <em><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=kTy&q=%22C.+Lieberman%22+mkultra&btnG=Search" rel="nofollow">mkultra+ "C. Lieberman"</a></em>: nada Do you see what I mean? It's all fine and good to say that there's official documents about PINECOMB and Lieberman, but where are they? Regarding no results on searches, here’s some examples:

“C. Lieberman” +pinecomb: nada

“C. Lieberman” +mkultra: nada

PINECOMB +Lieberman: one result to a blog post that does not give its source and is therefore hearsay (and no different, really, from the comments on this blog post).

mkultra+ “C. Lieberman”: nada

Do you see what I mean? It’s all fine and good to say that there’s official documents about PINECOMB and Lieberman, but where are they?

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