Neither Christ nor Mohammed were any more than politically ambitious men who lived and died and are the pathways to deceit and deception. Human beings do NOT need dead men to reach God.

Hell is no more real than either Satan or Santa Claus.

Hell is a device which organized religion concocted to insult God.

God is pure and perfect and would NEVER allow a universe where anyone with power to sustain evil to exist.

God is a wave of energy whose range is infinite.

God would NEVER create a world where every time we eat, some plant or animal has to die!

WE built the physical universe and created the evolutionary blueprint for it. We abandoned God and we became trapped by it.

The new living language in Precept Number Three of the Guidestones is telepathy. Human beings who are worthy enough to survive the cataclysm must learn how to think telepathically to one another, so that all secrecy, deceit and falsehoods shall disappear as the humans who inherit the earth take responsibility for one another.

I suggest you read Leucedendra, the visitor from Antares who arrived in Roswell, New Mexico on July 4th, 1947. Her husband built the Georgia Guidestones in Nuberg, Georgia as a shrine of truth for all humanity to see.

Go to http://www.betweendeath.com and discover the truth, and why only 500,000,000 worthy and eligible human beings will survive when the rest of the 6,300,000,000 must die and be harvested for their protein and their water.

Arvel Montmortis, Ph.D.
CFO
Guidestones Preservation Foundation

That’s the problem with you Malthusians; you don’t get it that I could care less what you think. Postulate from your lofty high-horse all you want, but NO ONE will dictate anything to me - most of all “reproduction rights.” I’d soon as well have the whole planet go to hell, than let the likes of you enforce a totalitarian policy.

You carrying-capacity-peak-oil freaks are the most dangerous sons of bitches in the world. Come around my neighborhood with your UN NGOs and see what you get.

There is no scenario anywhere in which population growth is a “good thing” long term. Those who focus on per-country replacement rates ignore global population increases. Yes a drop in population would cause problems, but none of those problems are as big as the problems, suffering, and environmental collapse that is certain to occur if we don’t.

It’s too late for any “us” vs “them” arguments or any belief that national boundaries will do much to help anyone in the long run. This is a global issue with local and nation-state consequences. For example, immigration is a consequence of overpopulation, not a cause of it. Likewise, global climate change is not impressed by national boundaries.

One of the key factors in this scenario is also our sense of time. This is a slow motion crash that requires immediate action, a bit like trying to steer a supertanker that’s on a crash course by putting in consistent input over a multi year time frame, and the one effective input is for all of us everywhere to stop making babies. The supertanker analogy is also apt because it was the “one time gift” of oil that allowed us to get this far out on a limb, and peak oil has already happened.

No technological / “alternative energy” options have the capacity or can be ramped up fast enough to avoid major global calamity. That isn’t to say we shouldn’t do them. Aggressively shifting to alternative energy is necessary, just not sufficient.

I disagree with the argument that there is some “right to reproduce” that must be accommodated in this scenario. If there is any “right to reproduce” it’s in the concept that one has the freedom to nurture a child or children and form some sort of family. Biological reproduction is not necessary to do that and there are many in need of this sort of nurturing.

Being a parent is much different from the romantic and oxytocin enhanced notion of “having a baby” (a phrase I always found to be a bit horrifying for its “possessing-an-object” language frame).

Parenting is a long term and non gender specific process - something someone does for 18+ years, not a one time biological act. I would also argue that at least one criterion to reproduce would be to not only have the necessary skills and resources to parent a child for 18 years or so, but that doing so would not cause suffering for others either now or in the future. Since we are beyond our global carrying capacity, no one can biologically reproduce and truly meet that criteria, since each added child now assures many more people suffer later.

For more comprehensive analysis of all this I suggest

Approaching the Limits http://www.paulchefurka.ca (maybe start with his “Elephant in the Room” essay).

Bruce Sundquist on environmental impact of overpopulation http://home.alltel.net/bsundquist1/

The Oil Drum Peak Oil Overview - June 2007 (www.theoildrum.com/node/2693)

…and of course the classic “Overshoot” by Catton

But the potentially bigger problem for mankind lies in the psychopathy of a Dr Blackmore. In a sane world she would be best suited to a padded cell, or at the very least kept under close supervision. The solutions that she favours come from a place of evil. But of course these kind of people do not see themselves as evil at all. They identify with swoon over whatever bunkum flows from elite think tanks. This kind of person has completely lost their humanity, and their ability to think creatively, and in favour of humanity as a whole.

“Obviously our first step must be immediately to establish and advertise drastic policies designed to bring our own population size under control.”

“…The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size.”
- Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, p.130-131

After such a brazen admission, do you think it’s accident that that is exactly what has occurred since? Gee, I wonder if the elite have the “antidote” to fluoride, depleted uranium and BPA?

I agree with some of the others here though, who suggest that it’s time for the overpopulation proponents to put up or shut up and off themselves in the name of saving the planet. Since they are so concerned and so convinced of their “theory”, it would be the obvious moral and decent thing to do.

2 - Since the U.N. has been shown to be useless and working against the common people - their meetings with foreign governments for peace- is useless - I DON’T BELIEVE THEIR POPULATION CLOCK!

a - because they do NOT take into account the myriad deaths from Civil Wars in the Sudan, the Congo, other countries in Central Africa, Nigeria, Uganda, Lebanon, Aghanistan, Iraq, the female executions in Iran, Palestine, Kashmir, China with the political slaughters and the contaminated milk, the government slaughters of Indians in Central and South America - for gold and land (same old same old) Deaths in one manner or another, wordwide.

2- JUST W H O are the “Overpupulation” lords to decide who has a right to be here in this life? It is between the First Cause, or what ever you may call It, It is between Whoever Brought Forth Life, and the Human Being!

There’s more to the so-called “overpopulation crisis” than what the elite Malthusians would have you believe.